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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyMon Jun 13, 2011 1:18 pm

Oh, from the classic series, the Colin Baker Dalek episodes where the husband from the sitcom Keeping Up Appearances had the most terrifying wig in the entire world. I mean, fuck, man, it's like some kind of brain slug.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyMon Jun 13, 2011 8:53 pm

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Oh, from the classic series, the Colin Baker Dalek episodes where the husband from the sitcom Keeping Up Appearances had the most terrifying wig in the entire world. I mean, fuck, man, it's like some kind of brain slug.

Clive Smith. He actually appeared in the new series, second season as well. And I'd forgotten that wig, but it was rather horrifying.

You know, you start figuring up British character actors, and I'd swear, most of them have made at least ONE appearance in Dr. Who (either classic or the new series) during their career. It's like it's some sort of unspoken law of of working for the BBC.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyTue Jun 14, 2011 5:22 am

I actually thought the first two episodes of season 6 are REALLY creepy, because of the angel-like properties of The Silence (trying not to spoil too much). Although it's more the idea behind it that's eerie than the episodes itself--no, scratch that,

Spoiler:
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyTue Jun 14, 2011 8:33 am

kleine_kat wrote:
I actually thought the first two episodes of season 6 are REALLY creepy, because of the angel-like properties of The Silence (trying not to spoil too much). Although it's more the idea behind it that's eerie than the episodes itself--no, scratch that,

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Like I said, watch during the day at least.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyThu Jul 21, 2011 5:51 am

I have a question about Doctor Who.
Why is he the last of the Time Lords? In 2 of the episodes of New-Who that I've seen, there have been devices that could create Time Lords (the Brain-rewriting thing from that derpy 2-parter where the Doctor becomes a teacher at a turn-of-the-century boarding school to hide from hunter farts, and the cloning thing from the one with the war of Fish and Men)
the first one might require a one-to-one transfer, but the second one clearly was creating a Time Lord from a few cells. The Doctor says it doesn't give you the Mind or the History of a Time Lord, but the Doctor can apparently do a Vulcan Mind Meld, so that doesn't seem to be a problem. In the same episode, the Doctor pines for his lost children and the question becomes why he can't visit them in his TIME TRAVELING POLICE CALL BOX! Seriously, it's not like the Time Lords were "Erased from time" or something, they're just all dead. He might not be able to Interfere with history, but he probably could Observe it.
And how could the Doctors Daughter Know she could regenerate? According to the 2-part GrimDark!AU with the Master as PM, Regeneration is a conscious choice
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyThu Jul 21, 2011 7:34 am

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And how could the Doctors Daughter Know she could regenerate? According to the 2-part GrimDark!AU with the Master as PM, Regeneration is a conscious choice
Death didn't stop McCoy from regenerating into McGann.

I think Regeneration is an involuntary procedure. From what I've seen, anyway. For example, the fact Ten was shot by Daleks, he regenerated partially, and transferred them into his severed hand (He regrew his hand in the Christmas invasion, still under the effect of his regeneration from Nine into Ten).

Three was practically dead before he regenerated into Four (Tom Baker was my Doctor, by the way). So anything that interferes with the Time Lord's system could possibly delay the Regeneration.

As for Jenny, I think it's because she's part Time Lord that she didn't quite figure out she could regenerate until she was already dead.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyThu Jul 21, 2011 5:15 pm

I think it's more accurate to say that different Time Lords appear to have different levels of control over the process. The Doctor pretty much only regenerates when he's had his ass thoroughly kicked, and he's left mentally messed up for a while afterword.

Compare with Romana in "Destiny of the Daleks". She basically regenerates as a fashion choice, seems to have a "grace period" where she can mold the form she's about to take, and certainly didn't seem discombobulated and in need of a Zero Room afterward.

The Master seems to be in similar straights--it's been mentioned that, even though he's about the same age as the Doctor, he'd burned all of his "natural" regenerations by the time the Doctor was midway through his fourth life. It's been credited to him regenerating to disguise himself, and no doubt all the times he was outsmarted by the Doctor and stuck in his own traps played a role too. It's possible that he regenerated into the Roger Delgado Master more than once. The Thirteenth Master was a shriveled, decaying dude ("The Deadly Assassin") who cheated final death by exposure to the powers of the Keeper of Traken and possessing the body of Consul Tremas ("The Keeper of Traken"), which left him capable of bodyhopping for a time even after the Tremas body was destroyed at some point (per the 1996 TV movie)

'Course that's all from the original show--the new one doesn't always feel obliged to follow the same rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptyThu Jul 21, 2011 10:34 pm

William Shakespeare wrote:
I have a question about Doctor Who.
Why is he the last of the Time Lords?

Technically, he isn't. As was demonstrated in the two-parter "The End of Time,' it would appear that the High Council, at least, is still alive; they're simply Time-Locked so they can't escape Gallifrey. Which lead me to believe that before Eight regenerated into Nine, he was the one who Time Locked them. I'm inclined to believe that in Nine's case, the regeneration was so traumatic it may have destroyed his memories of doing that, and he honestly thought he WAS the last of the Time Lords.

The problem occurs when Nine regenerated into Ten. Because he spent four seasons believing he (and The Master, when he finally made a reappearance) were the only Time Lords left. In the Master's case, I think, when he consciously refused to regenerate, he already had his back-up plan in place. He just didn't count on Lucy being willing to kill herself rather than help him, which left him with a borrowed body that was human and was quickly burning itself out.

Then comes the final battle, where we find out the High Council is not only alive, they're responsible for the drums in the Master's head, and can use him to break the Time Lock. Once he sees the white star diamond, Ten immediately knows what's happening. Which means one of two things; he only regained his memory upon seeing the diamond, or he'd spent the last four seasons moping all over the place about being the Last of the Time Lords while knowing the High Council was still alive. I tend to lean towards the latter. At the end, he sends them back, but the Master is gone (either escaped or sucked back into the Time Lock with them).

As for why he simply couldn't go back in time and visit Gallifrey, that's never been adequately explained. He's certainly shown no qualms about going back in time in the past, though he has been careful not to change anything. You'd do as well to ask why he's never visited his Granddaughter Susan who's probably still alive and not that old by Time Lord standards, given that she appeared to be a teenager when we first met her, and a middle-aged woman in the 25th Anniversary Special "The Five Doctors."

I have wondered, however, since seeing 'The End of Time,' that if the High Council survived the war, who's to say other Time Lords might not have? Especially since we saw in "The Doctor's Wife' that he and the Master weren't the first Time Lords who'd stolen a TARDIS and gone gadding off because they didn't agree with how things were being done.

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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who Season 6   Doctor Who Season 6 - Page 4 EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 1:08 pm

Just saw the Christmas special.

This is what was in my mind whenever Armstrong's pilot character was on screen:
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