The Truth For Youth: These Are Your Tracts On Animu

Oh, wow...it's nice that the football team found a place for this poor cross-eyed soul. Granted, he probably can't catch a football to save his life but I'm sure he's a great tackler.

Not to mention the sports scene (mish-mashed anatomy, odd perspectives) pays homage to the great comic Gil Thorp. So ate least they got that going for them.

Well, since I've seen condoms used as balloons and water balloons, I'm going to assume that a latex condom is not porous enough to allow water molecules or air molecules through.

Isn't the HIV virus bigger than water molecules and air molecules?

Seule wrote:

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...what.

Someone hasn't been keeping up with those nifty new discoveries. Like LATEX. (The very old condoms made of animal intestine are porous.)

Seule wrote:

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...what.

Notice there's no mention of the fact they, if used consistently, they're an effective form birth control? No, if you use condoms you'll catch AIDS! Barring a bad blood transfusion, the footballer player having had unprotected gay sex with multiple partners since he hit puberty, or the person he's having sex with being a drug user who shares needles, what are your chances of catching AIDS in high school?

Rabid Badger wrote:

Seule wrote:

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...what.

Notice there's no mention of the fact they, if used consistently, they're an effective form birth control? No, if you use condoms you'll catch AIDS! Barring a bad blood transfusion, the footballer player having had unprotected gay sex with multiple partners since he hit puberty, or the person he's having sex with being a drug user who shares needles, what are your chances of catching AIDS in high school?

Well, considering around 12-13% of people who test positive for HIV are in the 13-24 age range, not very unlikely. It's not an issue of having sex with someone who's shared needles or had 'unprotected gay sex with multiple partners' (because the gay part has had a lot to do with it since 1989, amirite,) and everything to do with the long chain of sexual partners who have also had sexual partners, some of whom may or may not have had HIV. It's not as dependent on a person's conscious sexual responsibility/irresponsibility as people would like to think, and it's attitudes like this one that keep it spreading.

Seule wrote:

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A millionth of an inch thick? An inch is approx. 2.2cm, which is 22 millimeters. 22/1,000,000 = 0.000022 millimeters which is .022 micrometers (µm). For some perspective, the thinnest condoms are 0.04 millimeters (40 µm), which is about 1,818.2 times thicker than this stated amount. A human hair measures 100 µm, and a red blood cell is 9 µm. Let's just say, if condoms were that thin, we may not be able to see them. You likely wouldn't even feel it was on- but making a condom that thin that won't break considering existing breakage issues with ultrathin condoms?

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Let's just get Scotty to show us. I CAN SHOW YOU HOW TO MAKE A CONDOM THAT IS 1,818.2 TIMES THINNER. It'd be like a pornographic Star Trek IV hopefully minus the frizzy haired lady. SAVE THE WHALES SPERM

rae wrote:

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...what.

Someone hasn't been keeping up with those nifty new discoveries. Like LATEX. (The very old condoms made of animal intestine are porous.)

I would like to point out that I was, in fact, taught this very lie in health class as a freshman. That was in 2003-04.

Lapin wrote:

Isn't the HIV virus bigger than water molecules and air molecules?

Given that a water molecule consists of three atoms, and air (oxygen or nitrogen) molecules consist of two atoms, a virus smaller than them that could do the kind of things HIV does would be the stuff of science fiction.

I love how these comics call themselves 'Truth For Youth', yet are chock-full of falsehoods and blatant ideological ravings.

Keith Fraser wrote:

Lapin wrote:

Isn't the HIV virus bigger than water molecules and air molecules?

Given that a water molecule consists of three atoms, and air (oxygen or nitrogen) molecules consist of two atoms, a virus smaller than them that could do the kind of things HIV does would be the stuff of science fiction.

Condoms are specifically designed to be waterproof and are tested by filling a random sampling of each shipment with water for this very reason.

Lysander wrote:

Keith Fraser wrote:

Lapin wrote:

Isn't the HIV virus bigger than water molecules and air molecules?

Given that a water molecule consists of three atoms, and air (oxygen or nitrogen) molecules consist of two atoms, a virus smaller than them that could do the kind of things HIV does would be the stuff of science fiction.

Condoms are specifically designed to be waterproof and are tested by filling a random sampling of each shipment with water for this very reason.

Best. Job. Ever.

Miss Prince wrote:

I would like to point out that I was, in fact, taught this very lie in health class as a freshman. That was in 2003-04.

That "fact" has been passed around the evangelical scene for years. And guess who started it?

That's right, Focus On The Family!

Why would people even use condoms if they didn't work? Are the manufacturers part of an evil Satanic conspiracy? Oh, wait, it's fundie-land, of course they are.

I imagine one of these brainwashed fundies getting a job in fast food.

"Yes, you HAVE to wear gloves when you handle raw meat."
"But I was taught that viruses go right through latex!!!"
"You're wrong. Put the damn gloves on."
"I'm quitting. Obviously you want me to catch viruses by making me think gloves will make raw meat safe to handle! Oh, and you worship the devil or something."

Keith Fraser wrote:

Why would people even use condoms if they didn't work? Are the manufacturers part of an evil Satanic conspiracy? Oh, wait, it's fundie-land, of course they are.

What it boils down to is 'You can't use condoms because they'll prevent you from having babies!" This is why most religious groups block the idea of sending condoms to Africa, where AIDS is endemic, and where most women catch it off their husbands after they've had sex with prostitutes. Christianity has made a big inroad in Africa in the last 50 years, and most branches of Christianity say that birth control is wrong. They also tell wives they can't refuse to have sex with their husbands, even if they know they've been sleeping with prostitutes (they're supposed to pray to God to protect them, I gather). And they're discouraged from using condoms as birth control. Never mind that the population in a good many areas has long outstripped the natural resources available. It's apparently better to give birth to a baby with HIV or ARC, who either dies an at early age, or is orphaned because both it's parents die of AIDS-related complications (they don't have access to the drugs we have here in the states-another things the churches promote as being wrong) than it is for the parents to use a condom and prevent yet another child from being born infected with HIV. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the WHO has estimated than in another ten years or so, roughly a million children in African under the age of five will be orphans. Who's going to take care of them? The churches? I suppose you could adopt them to American couples, but how many American couples, even Christians, will want to adopt a baby who's HIV positive and will likely require extensive medication and health care?

This is part of the reason I've never understood religion, despite the fact my father was a minister. At least our church didn't tell couples they couldn't use birth control and that they had to keep mass-producing babies like a factory.

And condoms work just fine, when used consistently and properly. I was unable to take the pill and couldn't get an IUD, so my husband and I used condoms as birth control, and the twins were born roughly eight months after we decided we were ready to start a family and quit using them (they were a month premature, and weren't supposed to arrive till Thanksgiving).

Rabid Badger wrote:

. Christianity has made a big inroad in Africa in the last 50 years, and most branches of Christianity say that birth control is wrong. They also tell wives they can't refuse to have sex with their husbands, even if they know they've been sleeping with prostitutes (they're supposed to pray to God to protect them, I gather). And they're discouraged from using condoms as birth control.

I would not say "most" branches of Christianity. Catholics, yes, as far as I'm aware, and maybe some of the smaller non-denominational churches. But the more mainstream Protestants don't have as much of an issue with it. They just are less vocal about it.

In other news, anyone else read their homosexuality tract? It threw me off at first because it didn't have the gays as acolytes of the devil or what have you. But then we meet the former homosexual paramedic and I just. . . [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

thebonerules wrote:

Rabid Badger wrote:

. Christianity has made a big inroad in Africa in the last 50 years, and most branches of Christianity say that birth control is wrong. They also tell wives they can't refuse to have sex with their husbands, even if they know they've been sleeping with prostitutes (they're supposed to pray to God to protect them, I gather). And they're discouraged from using condoms as birth control.

I would not say "most" branches of Christianity. Catholics, yes, as far as I'm aware, and maybe some of the smaller non-denominational churches. But the more mainstream Protestants don't have as much of an issue with it. They just are less vocal about it.

QFT. 'Most' Christian denominations do not currently have an official stance on preventative birth control one way or the other, or their negative stance is far out of date. Many Lutheran sects do not, and my church specifically has never claimed condoms to be a sin. The US Presbiterian Church seems to be for it, and most Mennonites appear to be cool with it as well.

On the other hand the Amish forbid even the use of 'safe days'. That is hardcore. I wonder what their stance on the pull out method is?

Oh and the Mormons stand opposed, to the surprise of no one.

thebonerules wrote:

Rabid Badger wrote:

. Christianity has made a big inroad in Africa in the last 50 years, and most branches of Christianity say that birth control is wrong. They also tell wives they can't refuse to have sex with their husbands, even if they know they've been sleeping with prostitutes (they're supposed to pray to God to protect them, I gather). And they're discouraged from using condoms as birth control.

I would not say "most" branches of Christianity. Catholics, yes, as far as I'm aware, and maybe some of the smaller non-denominational churches. But the more mainstream Protestants don't have as much of an issue with it. They just are less vocal about it.

I was actually going to mention Catholisism as being the major religion, but I didn't want to get dogpiled on by people who felt I was specifically picking on Catholics. I know a lot of Catholics who are very nice people. It's just the church's hardcore stance on certain subjects I have trouble with.

And Reepicheepchan, while the Pentecostal Church is anti-abortion, they hold no position on birth control, considering it to be a matter between the couple that they have no right to get involved with

Wait, some denominations oppose not only AIDS-preventing condoms, but also anti-retroviral drugs? WTF? Why?!

Keith Fraser wrote:

Wait, some denominations oppose not only AIDS-preventing condoms, but also anti-retroviral drugs? WTF? Why?!

Generally, they're of the more rabid fundie pursuation (think Westboro Baptist). To them, AIDS is God's punishment against homosexuals and other sinners, ergo, they don't deserve to be treated with medicine that can save their lives. This includes the people of Africa, where HIV is pretty much a strictly heterosexually transmitted disease. These people also tend to be rabid racists, and believe the Africans are being punished for not accepting God, despite the fact that last time I checked, a good many Africans belong to some form of Christian Church and have, I'm assuming, been told about salvation.

These people tend to pretty much ignore the New Testament and worship the Old Testament God, who struck people dead because they transgressed some obscure law. The "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself' and 'Judge not least you be judged' sentiments of the New Testament make them cranky. They don't want a loving, forgiving God who brought salvation to everyone, because it would require that they act like civilized human beings instead of throwbacks to the 1950s.

It's been my observation that if you look hard enough, you can find a passage in the Bible you can use to justify just about anything, including murder and rape. Of course, you have to take it out of context, or it generally refers to some ancient and obscure Jewish law, but they're not going to let a little thing like that stand in their way.

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Zeiss Manifold: OH INKY INKY
Zeiss Manifold: I GOT CONCERT TICKETS
Zeiss Manifold: WANNA GO TO THE SHOW WITH ME???
InkWeaver: to what?
Zeiss Manifold: LET'S FIND OUT

Spoiler:

Zeiss Manifold: LYRICS BY AN ANTISOCIAL SIXTH GRADER NAMED TONY
InkWeaver: "WHATEVER IT MEANS"
InkWeaver: god it sounds like something I say when I listen to that End of the World R.E.M. song
Zeiss Manifold: I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that remembers that cartoon Gene Simmons had on Nick years and years ago, but his character literally looked exactly like this. COINCIDENCE?
InkWeaver: Zeiss, you're the only one.
InkWeaver: I think maybe you make up some of these pop culture references.
Zeiss Manifold: I don't I swear
InkWeaver: If you made Ken up, I'm gonna be so sad.
Zeiss Manifold: KEN IS REAL WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS
InkWeaver: OKAY OKAY LET'S GET BACK TO THIS **AWESOME** INFORMATIONAL COMIC
Zeiss Manifold: i mean really now
InkWeaver: Is that singer a pokemon?
InkWeaver: Is... is that... slime in the back right corner?
InkWeaver: This IS Nickelodeon!
Zeiss Manifold: It's hard to make this guy look threatening when he's playing on the damn Double Dare set.
Zeiss Manifold: Second panel: grah fuck someone put vegemite on the microphone what is that
InkWeaver: PFFFT the name of this band is Death Squad
InkWeaver: predecessors to Dethklok
InkWeaver: Oh wait, no, it's Madonna Dahmer AND the Death Squad.
InkWeaver: ....no.
Zeiss Manifold: They tried to parody Marilyn Manson and "Madonna Dahmer" is the best they could come up with? "Britney Bundy" is better, totes.
InkWeaver: Where are the boob cones, seriously, I'm not seein' em.
Zeiss Manifold: They got transferred into the panel layout.

Spoiler:

Zeiss Manifold: BTW, if they start going on about how rock is our decision, I'm leaving.
Zeiss Manifold: I think that clubroom is no place for a Christian to be, myself. That cross is going to fall and brain somebody any second
InkWeaver: Personally, I don't see the purpose of all their colorful squares of paper tacked to that board.
InkWeaver: Black-haired girl = scary anime girl.
InkWeaver: Last panel: Wolverine is going to rape Jason.
InkWeaver: Second-to-last-panel: Benny has pooped his pants from excitement.
Zeiss Manifold: Honestly, I don't see why they just don’t go. UNLESS THEY ARE TRAPPED BY THE SLIME
InkWeaver: "WHAT AM I DOING HERE? Oh, wait, I can leave."
InkWeaver: Wolverine: Nah, gonna rape ya.
Zeiss Manifold: Is every black guy required to wear a sports uniform in these things?
InkWeaver: Shows they're wholesome.

Spoiler:

Zeiss Manifold: RAWK OUT
InkWeaver: Schoolyard.
InkWeaver: Cheese.
InkWeaver: THIS IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION
InkWeaver: OF ROCK MUSIC
InkWeaver: "AND ALSO DEVIL"?
InkWeaver: what.
Zeiss Manifold: like is the cheese growing off the jungle gym or something
InkWeaver: And how does breath mold? Is it from eating the schoolyard cheese?
InkWeaver: Note to self: do not eat cheese in a schoolyard.
Zeiss Manifold: OH INKY
Zeiss Manifold: THE SONG'S CUT OFF
Zeiss Manifold: WE SHOULD FINISH IT
Zeiss Manifold: i'll start
Zeiss Manifold: NOW WE DANCE THE DEVIL DANCE
Zeiss Manifold: SEND YOUR MOTHER BACK TO FRANCE
Zeiss Manifold: THERE ARE BATMANS IN MY PANTS
Zeiss Manifold: uhhhhh GOOOOO SATAN
InkWeaver: RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH
InkWeaver: KICK GOD IN THE KNEE
InkWeaver: REE REE REE
InkWeaver: KICK HIM IN THE ASS
InkWeaver: RASS RASS RASS
InkWeaver: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SATAN!
InkWeaver: ...fuck, can't find my pompoms
InkWeaver: am i doin it right
Zeiss Manifold: Hmm, wonder where they-
Zeiss Manifold: Uh, Inky? I hope those pompoms weren't expensive, 'cause something's slathered them with schoolyard cheese.
InkWeaver: Goddammit, not AGAIN
InkWeaver: Now they smell like moldy breath.
InkWeaver: last panel: LITTLE DOES JACK CHICK KNOW
InkWeaver: THAT BY NIGHT, LITTLE JASON IS ACTUALLY...
InkWeaver: A WEREWOLF
Zeiss Manifold: I don't know if these are affiliated with Chick, actually. I know they're affiliated with Pat Boone, though.
InkWeaver: all the same.
Zeiss Manifold: "Trapped in a spiritual crisis, Jason found the good sense to ask help from someone whiter!"

Spoiler:

Zeiss Manifold: "Madonna Dahmer & The Death Squad, better known as Chia KISS."
InkWeaver: last panel: Wolverine reached over and pinched Jason's bottom.
Zeiss Manifold: browwwwn note
InkWeaver: NO WHAT IF BENNY THINKS I'M UNCOOL
InkWeaver: NOT THAT WE'RE AT A DOUBLE DARE CONCERT ALREADY BUT STILL
Zeiss Manifold: A Double Dare concert full of people going "MYAAH, SEE, MYAAAH", no less.
InkWeaver: Yeeeeah, methinks he need not worry so much about being cool.
Zeiss Manifold: Third panel: They even added an extra line so it couldn't be sung to "Awesome God". These Truth For Youth folks are getting ahead of me.

Spoiler:

Zeiss Manifold: These kids look like Burger King mascots.
InkWeaver: Wow.
InkWeaver: "He's GONE! Well, no use looking for him, hope they don't sacrifice him to their dark gods!"
Zeiss Manifold: Satanic ritual abuse? More like SLIMETASTIC ritual abuse.
InkWeaver: Second to last panel: *raises hands* Wah. Wah. Waaaaaaaaaah.
InkWeaver: Little does Jason know in the middle panel that Benny is hiding the heroin needle he and his new friends were passing around in his absence.
Zeiss Manifold: I'm totally reading all of Jason's lines in the YGO Abridged Tristan voice.
InkWeaver: "I think I just pooped blood!"

Spoiler:

InkWeaver: Wow... what a douche.
InkWeaver: "Sorry dude, but you can't figure out what you like about our religion. You're just in it. Or get the fuck out."
InkWeaver: Last Panel, the separators of the panels look like laser beams shooting from the crucifix
Zeiss Manifold: “Let me crucifiFIX that for you!”
Zeiss Manifold: *pew pew*
Zeiss Manifold: How did he know he was forgiven anyway? Did the cross start vibrating or something? Is that why they have it chained?
InkWeaver: The laser beams told them.
InkWeaver: Secretly, it's a blood pact. The truth is, Jason's been conning them into Satan's rule this whole time.
Zeiss Manifold: Third panel: That's not a Bible, that's a box of Stephen Colbert cereal.
InkWeaver: holy shit, that's a BIBLE?
InkWeaver: i thought it was some random book they were chucking around.
Zeiss Manifold: "It's actually Dick Clark's Advice For Hip Teens, but I like to pretend it's a Bible.”
Zeiss Manifold: For additional guidance on music, visit [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Zeiss Manifold: *checks*
Zeiss Manifold: Hmm. It looks like it's run by the bad guy from a neighboorhood watch pamphlet.
InkWeaver: No, it's that dude.
InkWeaver: From Pink Panther
InkWeaver: am I thinking of the right guy?
Zeiss Manifold: Either that or Inspector Gadget's angry fundamentalist brother.
InkWeaver: Go, go, Gadget barely believable propaganda!
InkWeaver: Go, go, Gadget bible references!
InkWeaver: Go, go, Gadget -- oh god what has my life come to
InkWeaver: GO GO GADGET GET ME OUT OF THIS COMIC INDUSTRY
Zeiss Manifold: Well, that's about it for today. There's only one thing left to do.
InkWeaver: And what's that, Zeiss?
Zeiss Manifold: RAWK OUT
Zeiss Manifold: WE'RE GONNA ROCK ROCK ROCK WITH THE ROCK
InkWeaver: YEAAAAAAAH
InkWeaver: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Zeiss Manifold: WE'RE GONNA ROCK, ROCK, ROCK, ROCK WITH THE ROCK

Zeiss Manifold wrote:

Zeiss Manifold: OH INKY
Zeiss Manifold: THE SONG'S CUT OFF
Zeiss Manifold: WE SHOULD FINISH IT
Zeiss Manifold: i'll start
Zeiss Manifold: NOW WE DANCE THE DEVIL DANCE
Zeiss Manifold: SEND YOUR MOTHER BACK TO FRANCE
Zeiss Manifold: THERE ARE BATMANS IN MY PANTS
Zeiss Manifold: uhhhhh GOOOOO SATAN

I....died.

I dunno-I think it would've had more impact if they hadn't based the lead singer off Gene Simmons from KISS. KISS was popular when I was a teenager, and I just can't see a kid in 2004 getting scared by someone spitting fake blood.

Now if they'd made the lead singer actually LOOK like a cross between Marilyn Manson and Madonna? That would've scared even me.

Rabid Badger wrote:

Now if they'd made the lead singer actually LOOK like a cross between Marilyn Manson and Madonna? That would've scared even me.

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TheHedonist wrote:

Rabid Badger wrote:

Now if they'd made the lead singer actually LOOK like a cross between Marilyn Manson and Madonna? That would've scared even me.

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THAT'S IT!!1

Gods, I hate the earnest goody-two-shoes Bible-quoting teens in these kind of tracts *so* much (and I was a goody-two-shoes teen, just not a Bible-quoting one). Any teens like this who actually existed would be insufferable pricks. "Don't do that, Bob! God doesn't want you to! *Bible verse*"