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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 39 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:28 am | |
| In European and Norht American countries, white skin is seen as the norm. This is essentially what privilege is. Here's a checklist of examples of white privilege. | |
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Freezer Epic-Level Pornomancer
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 50 Location : Memphis, TN
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:23 am | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Penguin wrote:
- OzymandiasBowie wrote:
- Affirmative Action =/= Reverse Racism.
There is no such thing as "reverse racism." Something is racist, or it is not. Correct. And racism = prejudice + power. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Sheba Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:35 am | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- In European and Norht American countries, white skin is seen as the norm. This is essentially what privilege is. Here's a checklist of examples of white privilege.
I always wondered what exactly I, personally, am supposed to do to make up for all this horrible shit that society does. Yes, I feel horribly guilty and awkwnowledge that I am a terrible person for being white and that my evil white soul is going to hell and I deserve no less than gangrape by syphilitic llamas. Now what? I personally haven't the power to change anything, or any way to make anyone else INTERESTED in making changes. Help me out here, folks--what's the next step? | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 39 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:47 am | |
| - Sheba wrote:
- ZoZo wrote:
- In European and Norht American countries, white skin is seen as the norm. This is essentially what privilege is. Here's a checklist of examples of white privilege.
I always wondered what exactly I, personally, am supposed to do to make up for all this horrible shit that society does. Yes, I feel horribly guilty and awkwnowledge that I am a terrible person for being white and that my evil white soul is going to hell and I deserve no less than gangrape by syphilitic llamas. Now what? I personally haven't the power to change anything, or any way to make anyone else INTERESTED in making changes. Help me out here, folks--what's the next step? Not being sarcastic about it would be a start. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:46 am | |
| lol.
Just being consciously aware of what privileges you have makes a pretty big difference, too. | |
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Cyberwulf NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 42 Location : TRILOBITE!
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:48 am | |
| You can start by knocking off the fucking whining about how these imaginary people are condemning you to hell for daring to be white. Then think about not throwing up your fucking hands like there's nothing you can do. Right now you don't give a flip what society does, you only care about your persecution complex. | |
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Sheba Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:20 am | |
| - Cyberwulf wrote:
- You can start by knocking off the fucking whining about how these imaginary people are condemning you to hell for daring to be white. Then think about not throwing up your fucking hands like there's nothing you can do. Right now you don't give a flip what society does, you only care about your persecution complex.
No, I honestly want to know what to do. No one ever seems to answer that. What can an average person with no political power or money, do to change white privelege? Please help me out here; I honestly want to help but I have no idea how to go about it? And where did I say anything about anyone else? I honestly believe white people are evil and am ashamed to be one. | |
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InkWeaver Harriet Tubman
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 33 Location : Home of the peanuts.
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:41 am | |
| - Sheba wrote:
And where did I say anything about anyone else? I honestly believe white people are evil and am ashamed to be one. Is there just no middle ground with you, Sheba? | |
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Anon Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-01-20
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:52 am | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Penguin wrote:
- ZoZo wrote:
- Correct. And racism = prejudice + power.
Power? How do you figure that? A relatively powerless individual can still hold racist views. I meant "privilege". Haven't had my coffee yet. Kyriarchy! Either way, this is BS, and dangerous BS at that. Pretending otherwise fosters the mentality that certain groups can't be racist because they are the victims and allows pockets of society to develop where racist views go unchallenged. Also, while white privilege definitely exists, so called "affirmative action" or "positive discrimination" doesn't actually tackle the problem, it simply moves it around. People do it because treating the symptoms is much easier than trying to cure the disease The way to avoid discrimination is not to discriminate. If you want to eliminate discrimination then it should be punished where and whenever it is found, not treated as if it's OK in some circumstances and not others.
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Chris91 Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-13 Age : 57 Location : Salem, Mass., USA
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:01 am | |
| - InkWeaver wrote:
- Sheba wrote:
And where did I say anything about anyone else? I honestly believe white people are evil and am ashamed to be one. Is there just no middle ground with you, Sheba? Doesn't sound like there is. | |
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Mr.Doobie Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-10-23 Location : under the sink
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:04 am | |
| - Sheba wrote:
- ZoZo wrote:
- In European and Norht American countries, white skin is seen as the norm. This is essentially what privilege is. Here's a checklist of examples of white privilege.
I always wondered what exactly I, personally, am supposed to do to make up for all this horrible shit that society does. Yes, I feel horribly guilty and awkwnowledge that I am a terrible person for being white and that my evil white soul is going to hell and I deserve no less than gangrape by syphilitic llamas. Now what? I personally haven't the power to change anything, or any way to make anyone else INTERESTED in making changes. Help me out here, folks--what's the next step? - Spoiler:
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Cyberwulf NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 42 Location : TRILOBITE!
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:27 am | |
| Yes yes Anon, there's no such thing as institutionalised racism, absolutely. | |
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Sheba Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:33 am | |
| - InkWeaver wrote:
- Sheba wrote:
And where did I say anything about anyone else? I honestly believe white people are evil and am ashamed to be one. Is there just no middle ground with you, Sheba? ....Can you people help me out or what? Or are none of you actually interested in making a difference? In a sick way I guess that sort of makes sense; that way you needn't go out of your way, but still get to feel smugly superior because at least you RECOGNIZE the problem; that totally makes you better than anyone who doesn't. Doesn't make it any less reprehensible though. | |
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Anon Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-01-20
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:37 am | |
| - Cyberwulf wrote:
- Yes yes Anon, there's no such thing as institutionalised racism, absolutely.
I don't recall saying that. | |
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Just Chipper Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2010-01-05 Age : 33 Location : Liverpool, England
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:37 am | |
| Sheba, here's an idea on what you can do: do what ZoZo just did. Educate people when you get the chance. Don't victimise yourself. Acknowledge that it exists and realise that if you're in this position right now, chances are that there'll be others just like you who also exist and might need the same advice you are getting right now. Learn from it and help others.
And most importantly: work at correcting the main problem itself. The only advice I can think of on that front is donation and volunteer work, though, as that's all I do. Somebody else here with more experience on the matter should be able to help more. | |
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Mikey Go WOOGA NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-16 Age : 34 Location : In desperate pursuit of lulz.
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:33 pm | |
| - Cyberwulf wrote:
- You can start by knocking off the fucking whining about how these imaginary people are condemning you to hell for daring to be white. Then think about not throwing up your fucking hands like there's nothing you can do. Right now you don't give a flip what society does, you only care about your persecution complex.
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- Then think about not throwing up your fucking hands like there's nothing you can do. Right now you don't give a flip what society does, you only care about your persecution complex.
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- Right now you don't give a flip what society does, you only care about your persecution complex.
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- you only care about your persecution complex.
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- your persecution complex.
>mfw the goddamn Persecution Complex Supreme complained about a perceived persecution complex near me.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 39 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:00 pm | |
| - Just Chipper wrote:
- Sheba, here's an idea on what you can do: do what ZoZo just did. Educate people when you get the chance. Don't victimise yourself. Acknowledge that it exists and realise that if you're in this position right now, chances are that there'll be others just like you who also exist and might need the same advice you are getting right now. Learn from it and help others.
And most importantly: work at correcting the main problem itself. The only advice I can think of on that front is donation and volunteer work, though, as that's all I do. Somebody else here with more experience on the matter should be able to help more. Seriously, this. Change happens slowly, and it helps to make people aware of the problem. Cy, I think Anon was just trolling. Hit all the Poor Oppressed White Guy bingo points perfectly. I hope Anon was just trolling. | |
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TheHermit Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:30 pm | |
| Anyone who uses the phrase "reverse racism" is an asshole. I have yet to be proven wrong on this. Affirmative action is awesome for reasons I don't have the time to go into right now. To make it simple, even if the playing field were totally equal, white folks have enormous societal advantages in the workplace due to the relative income levels of white families starting them out with higher income and prestige. Affirmative action can, in the long run, mitigate those advantages and make the workplace more fair. Also, have a long, but relevant article. - Mikey Go WOOGA wrote:
- >mfw the goddamn Persecution Complex Supreme complained about a perceived persecution complex near me.
You're still an asshole, but I lol'ed anyway. | |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:09 pm | |
| - TheHermit wrote:
- Anyone who uses the phrase "reverse racism" is an asshole. I have yet to be proven wrong on this.
Affirmative action is awesome for reasons I don't have the time to go into right now. To make it simple, even if the playing field were totally equal, white folks have enormous societal advantages in the workplace due to the relative income levels of white families starting them out with higher income and prestige. Affirmative action can, in the long run, mitigate those advantages and make the workplace more fair. This, fucking this. "Reverse Racism" is a delusion. Anyway, the President released a statement today. If people pass out fliers without college authorization, like the Nazi did, then the fliers will be taken down by security and destroyed. There was also some stuff about his sincere apologies in the delaying of his response, and within several weeks there will a "Task Force" implemented to deal with these kind of situations, should they arise again. Basically, the issue is if the Nazi's right to Free Speech impedes Non-White students' right to study free from threat. I can't fucking believe that's an issue; overtly flaunting one's allegiance to a hate group is a threat. I think, at least. | |
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gaijinguy Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Location : Assuming a spherical frictionless cow
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:45 pm | |
| - OzymandiasBowie wrote:
The president is pretty much in a corner, he has to balance the Nazi's right to speech and students' right not to be threatened. But, isn't advocating forced immigration a threat? Isn't the Swastika a threat, no matter how it's presented? Is it? - Spoiler:
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- OzymandiasBowie wrote:
- If I (or you) were to confront this man and tell him exactly where he may stick it, I highly doubt jail time would be involved. He wouldn't press charges, what with the shame of having his ass beaten by a woman. He, like his National Socialist friends, believe woman should be subservient. What with the violence he and the like advocate, I'd be more afraid that he'd hit back.
So you realize this would require you actually beating him up, which might be a bit of a trick. | |
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Rabid Badger And This is Why I Need Medication
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:58 pm | |
| - OzymandiasBowie wrote:
- If I (or you) were to confront this man and tell him exactly where he may stick it, I highly doubt jail time would be involved. He wouldn't press charges, what with the shame of having his ass beaten by a woman. He, like his National Socialist friends, believe woman should be subservient. What with the violence he and the like advocate, I'd be more afraid that he'd hit back.
- gaijinguy wrote:
- So you realize this would require you actually beating him up, which might be a bit of a trick.
Oh, I never suggested beating him up. I just suggested telling him what you think of him and his odious notions. And I doubt he'd physically attack you, especially if you made sure to do it in a public place with a lot of people around. Free speech works both ways. If he's allowed to spout his racist bullshit, then I have every right to tell him I disagree with him and tell him why. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:15 pm | |
| Hoshit, I was about to break out my Derailing for Dummies thing. But then I realised, this is WGW. Once I get it out, it'd probably be out for good. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:18 pm | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:22 pm | |
| Oh baby, I'm not a size king. I do need some rest every now and then, though. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: National Socialist Distributes White Pride Fliers in Vancouver, WA. Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:24 pm | |
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