Diary Released of Boy Who Was Confined to Cage and Murdered

Off topic, but does Cyberwulfy seem more cranky then usual? Maybe she's PMSing?

Yes, because a woman displaying any emotion other than calm politeness is always because she's PMSing, doncha know.

Adagio wrote:

any emotion other than calm politeness

Manners are an emotion now?

Howithurts wrote:

Off topic, but does Cyberwulfy seem more cranky then usual? Maybe she's PMSing?

Maybe you're an unimaginative, sexist tool who thinks that "syndroming" is a word.

Penguin wrote:

Adagio wrote:

any emotion other than calm politeness

Manners are an emotion now?

'Calm' is an emotion.

Adagio wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Adagio wrote:

any emotion other than calm politeness

Manners are an emotion now?

'Calm' is an emotion.

And manners tend to be used as an example of the level of control one has over their emotions, whether that be true or not.

Verandering wrote:

Adagio wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Adagio wrote:

any emotion other than calm politeness

Manners are an emotion now?

'Calm' is an emotion.

And manners tend to be used as an example of the level of control one has over their emotions, whether that be true or not.

Complete sidetrack here, but the other night I had a Cyberwulf moment. In a good way, I think. AT least it pissed me off.

At work, 4.30 in the morning. One of the very part time bartenders comes in, drunk, and asks for some matches. We haven't had any at the desk in like ages and I told him, no, sorry. He then asked to borrow my lighter. I said no, because I felt a bit uncomfortable and just wanted drunk bartender to leave and figured telling him to get matches across the street at the gas station would be the quickest... cause if I lent him my lighter, he'd stand around outside, smoke, then bring it back in. He then started like pleading and shit, like he simply COULD NOT BELIEVE I refused to borrow him my lighter, and finally left in a huff, like fifteen fucking minutes later. It was a surreal experience, because the entire time I was standing there, saying, "No, no. I'm not going to." he kept asking, like it was going to wear me down or something... and I was thinking, "Jesus Christ, this is EXACTLY what Cy says all the fucking time."

I don't think I've ever quite seen such a clear cut example of people expecting something and refusing to take no for an answer.

*waves hand* Manners discussion, please continue.

I'm just saying, normally Cyberwulf is cranky, but right now she just seems more so then usual.

Howithurts wrote:

I'm just saying, normally Cyberwulf is cranky, but right now she just seems more so then usual.

And using the term PMSing against her knowing full-well how she'll react makes you look like a troll.

...So I come back to see my thread is two pages of (boring) homeschool wank and sexism? WGW, I am disappoint.

Cyberwulf wrote:

Owlish wrote:

I...I can't even come up with something sarcastic about this. How do you not notice a little boy in a cage?

Yes, because the boy was in a cage right there in the living room where anyone could walk in and see him.

Have some fucking sense, would you?

Well, if you read the full article, I'm honestly not sure. The parents sure didn't have any fucking sense. Generally one wouldn't be stupid enough to keep a child in a dog cage in plain view, especially when caseworkers come by, but generally one doesn't keep children in dog cages ever. Somebody noticed it, and filed a complaint about it. A previous article mentions that the family lived in a trailor; not a lot of room to hide a dog cage there. His father, who killed him, led police directly to the body--not exactly sensible action for someone who murdered their own child. The article also said that the state had no idea that the boy was gone for a full two years after his death, until his body was found. Like Notanoni said, a check means actually checking on the condition of the child--not just taking the parents at their word that nothing is amiss. And (I hate to even mention it again) but in every state I've lived in, when a child leaves the public school system an alternate program needs to be documented. That program can be totally batshit religious ranting, but there has to be something in place to show some kind of education going on, and there clearly could not have been in this case. And that may not even be CPS's responsibility, probably the Dept. of Education, but the state failed on at least two counts here.

rae wrote:

The other thing to remember about CPS is that we don't hear all the times when it works out adequately, or well, only horrible cases like this one, or cases when they took a child from a home xe should have been left in.

You have a point. However, I think what CPS does is generally depressing work. Even when cases work out "adequately," as you say, they probably removed a child from their home or mediated some kind of dispute. Generally that's considered gossiping about your neighbors, and not newsworthy. And it's hard not to get frustrated about things like this, when there was ample opportunity to stop something tragic and allegations were simply deemed "unsubstantiated." Yes, CPS is underfunded and understaffed, but wow....

The parents, when CPS was going to arrive, might have let him out of the cage while CPS was around and threatened him with punishment if he let it show. Things like this as sad as they are get around well-meaning individuals and organizations all the time.

It's so sad.

Also my cousin was homeschooled, there was no way her mom and dad would have taught her past the third grade. She logged into the computer to take tests and stuff.

Also, just wanted to point out that in the OP, when I said "the crazy parents' guide to homeschooling," that comment was meant to indicate that what the parents did was CLEARLY NOT HOMESCHOOLING. *sigh*

Or were you all just responding to Harley's idiocy? God this thread really tanked....

Owlish wrote:

Or were you all just responding to Harley's idiocy? God this thread really tanked....

Pretty sure we were responding to Harley. I did not take your post as being anti-home schooling, anyway.

Maximilia wrote:

Verandering wrote:

Adagio wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Adagio wrote:

any emotion other than calm politeness

Manners are an emotion now?

'Calm' is an emotion.

And manners tend to be used as an example of the level of control one has over their emotions, whether that be true or not.

Complete sidetrack here, but the other night I had a Cyberwulf moment. In a good way, I think. AT least it pissed me off.

At work, 4.30 in the morning. One of the very part time bartenders comes in, drunk, and asks for some matches. We haven't had any at the desk in like ages and I told him, no, sorry. He then asked to borrow my lighter. I said no, because I felt a bit uncomfortable and just wanted drunk bartender to leave and figured telling him to get matches across the street at the gas station would be the quickest... cause if I lent him my lighter, he'd stand around outside, smoke, then bring it back in. He then started like pleading and shit, like he simply COULD NOT BELIEVE I refused to borrow him my lighter, and finally left in a huff, like fifteen fucking minutes later. It was a surreal experience, because the entire time I was standing there, saying, "No, no. I'm not going to." he kept asking, like it was going to wear me down or something... and I was thinking, "Jesus Christ, this is EXACTLY what Cy says all the fucking time."

I don't think I've ever quite seen such a clear cut example of people expecting something and refusing to take no for an answer.

*waves hand* Manners discussion, please continue.

Wait, are you comparing yourself to Cy, or this other dude?