11 Pound Dog was "Presenting a Threat to an Officer"

T.S.Orr wrote:

Okay let's end this.

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As the officer returned to his car, “he was surprised by a growling dog running through the yard directly at him from the rear, leaving him with just seconds to consider his options,“ according to the news release. The options for the officer in that type of situation include running to the squad car; distracting the dog; or using pepper spray, a baton or firearm. The dog lunged at the police officer and attacked him as the officer fired one shot that hit and killed the dog, Broadfoot said.
An investigation by the Danville Police Department found that the dog displayed aggressive tendencies before other people.

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The officer leaned against his patrol car, smoking a cigarette, and Tawaiin walked over to talk to him. He said the officer told him that he had to shoot the dog because he was barking at him.

Cop is a dick, yes. Did the dog attack him, yes. Cop shot dog. Aggressive dog is dead. The End. I'm through.

Goddamn, I said the same thing. We are on the same wavelength. Also sign me up on the "It's just a fucking dog" side of the argument.

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I'd love for one of them to explain just what it is about dogs that make them deserve to be shot.

It was an aggressive dog that was allowed to roam free without a leash that jumped at an officer. I'm not seeing the issue. You're just upset because it's "cute" and belonged to a family of idiots.
I was a dog owner too and we took the precautions to make sure she never jumped on anyone and kept her leashed/in the house.

Small, savage dogs (such as pitbulls) can cause a lot of damage.

To 8 year old children.

To adult males who not only have a gun but also a baton and pepper spray?

No.

Saying "It's just a dog" is wrong. I didn't even look at the picture so I don't know if the dog is cute or not and I don't care. It was shot. Am I not allowed to care because it's just a dog?

Exactly. It's just a dog. You shouldn't need to use a gun on it. And while nobody's saying dogs deserve to be shot, why aren't more people complaining about this officer being reckless and thoughtless with a deadly weapon?

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THERE IS STILL TROUBLE IN DARFAR, RIGHT?

VB wrote:

Lapin, I mean T.S.Orr and Freezer justifying the officer using his weapon by saying it's just a dog, so who cares? I'd love for one of them to explain just what it is about dogs that make them deserve to be shot.

Kindly point out where I said that.

My point isn't that the officer didn't overreact - he probably did (I say probably, not knowing the whole story). My point is everyone going "Oh poor widdle doggie" because dachshunds are obviously cute and harmless and that no one in the "poor widdle doggie" camp is saying word one about the owners who let an ill-trained animal run unrestreained.

And Harley: no dear, I am not telling you you can't criticize the cop's actions. But when your opening salvo is "This is why people shouldn't have guns", you more or less forefeit your right to be taken seriously.

Mafiosa wrote:

It was an aggressive dog that was allowed to roam free without a leash that jumped at an officer.

Dearest, if you think that's "aggressive", you need to spend some more time volunteering at an animal shelter. Once a few feral cats have literally tried to eat your face off through the bars, you might reconsider your definition.

Also, the conflicting stories of the police department to the owners and neighbors makes me highly suspicious of the "attack" story. First the officer tells the owner that he had to shoot the dog because it was "barking" at him. Then he refuses to give his name or badge number to the owner, which sounds suspiciously like he was feeling guilty or scared that he might get in trouble. Later, in the official report, the dog suddenly went from barking to having "lunged" and "attacked" him. The official report also says that they found evidence that the dog had displayed "aggressive tendencies" (wow, nicely vague there) before, however neighbors told the news crew a different story:

Neighbors said Killer was a sweet, mild-mannered dog. “He just kind of walked up and down the neighborhood and didn’t bother anybody."

No witnesses. Conflicting stories, and a different written statement than what the officer originally told the owner. Sounds like a typical case of cops working backwards to cover their asses to me.

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You're just upset because it's "cute".

:roflmao: God, that's fucking hilarious. I know it's the internet and relative anonymity and all that, but I'd think if I've gotten a reputation for anything around here it's my work with animals. But yeah, I'm only upset because he's "cute". FYI, if I ever had to make a list of breeds I never want to own, dachsunds are in the top three.

Lysander wrote:

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THERE IS STILL TROUBLE IN DARFAR, RIGHT?

It's kind of hard to miss.

VB wrote:

Mafiosa wrote:

It was an aggressive dog that was allowed to roam free without a leash that jumped at an officer.

Dearest, if you think that's "aggressive", you need to spend some more time volunteering at an animal shelter. Once a few feral cats have literally tried to eat your face off through the bars, you might reconsider your definition.

blah blah blah

No witnesses. Conflicting stories, and a different written statement than what the officer originally told the owner. Sounds like a typical case of cops working backwards to cover their asses to me.

I'm more apt to believe the officer that was actually there and this person from the humane society

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“The dachsund kept jumping up, trying to bite my ankle and leg.“, says Paulette Dean.

Enter humane society director Paulette Dean, who claims she encountered “Killer” in the neighborhood years before.

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There was no doubt in my mind that I would
have been bitten, if the dog had been able to reach me. The owners were
in the driveway watching what happened,” she said.

Dean did make a point to explain that she did not feel the shooting
was justified and other methods could have been used by the officer.

So fuck you and your bleeding heart. Some people are just shitty owners and letting an aggressive dog loose in a neighborhood is a dick move.

Plus this lead to threats in the department:

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“Let’s stop the threats. Let’s stop the
horrible things that are going around about the department, the humane
society, the dog,” she said.

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You're just upset because it's "cute".

:roflmao: God, that's fucking hilarious. I know it's the internet and relative anonymity and all that, but I'd think if I've gotten a reputation for anything around here it's my work with animals. But yeah, I'm only upset because he's "cute". FYI, if I ever had to make a list of breeds I never want to own, dachsunds are in the top three.

Yeah. THAT'S what we know you for. Not your pigheaded stubbornness.

I am not in any way saying the police officer should have taken action. Dog bites hurt. I'm saying he overreacted like "WHOA!" He could have restrained an eleven pound dog easily with his foot on the dog's throat, keeping the viscious little fuck pinned while he looked for somewhere to contain it, such as his squad car.

I don't like the idea that someone this trigger happy is running around with weapons.

Lapin wrote:

I am not in any way saying the police officer should have taken action. Dog bites hurt. I'm saying he overreacted like "WHOA!" He could have restrained an eleven pound dog easily with his foot on the dog's throat, keeping the viscious little fuck pinned while he looked for somewhere to contain it, such as his squad car.

I don't like the idea that someone this trigger happy is running around with weapons.

According to the newer article, officers are being trained to handle confrontations with dogs now. So maybe the cop will be less of a dipshit next time.

Mafiosa wrote:

I'm more apt to believe the officer that was actually there and this person from the humane society

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“The dachsund kept jumping up, trying to bite my ankle and leg.“, says Paulette Dean.

Enter humane society director Paulette Dean, who claims she encountered “Killer” in the neighborhood years before.

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There was no doubt in my mind that I would
have been bitten, if the dog had been able to reach me. The owners were
in the driveway watching what happened,” she said.

So fuck you and your bleeding heart.

The same officer whose story has changed from the one he gave initially, to the one he gave in his official report? The same officer who denied his information to a citizen with a valid complaint? Yes, he appears to be remarkably trustworthy.

Funny how they've managed to dig this woman up, all of a sudden. A Humane Society executive director who was attacked by a dog, didn't report it to Animal Control, didn't go and talk with the owners who she says she clearly saw watching, or notify anyone at all about the attack. Yes, that sounds exactly like the sort of responsible behavior of every other executive director of a shelter I've volunteered or worked under.

And who the owners say they've never seen before in their life? And let's not forget that if the dog had been a menace, surely the people in the neighborhood who had suffered the worst at the tooth and claw of this menacing beast would be glad to come forward with tales of attacks of their own, and not singing the dog's praises.

Not. Buying. It. I have personally handled aggressive dog cases before, working alongside Animal Control, the police and the county. This is not how it's done. This isn't the way these situations play out. If there is an aggressive dog allowed to run lose, there are reports from the community. There are visits from Animal Control. There are records. What there isn't is eleven years of NOTHING, happy neighbors, and then suddenly a police officer and shelter director coming out of the woodwork with claims of aggression. No, none of this adds up, and it all smells like bullshit.

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No, none of this adds up, and it all smells like bullshit.

Yeah okay. You keep speculating. Don't mind me I'll just post quotes and news stories and reports and shit while you continue to attest that this dog was a perfect little angel due to one quote from a single neighbor.

Mafiosa wrote:

Yeah okay. You keep speculating. Don't mind me I'll just post quotes and news stories and reports and shit while you continue to attest that this dog was a perfect little angel due to one quote from a single neighbor.

And a complete lack of any documented paper history on this supposedly "aggressive" dog. Why haven't his medical records been released? The vet clinic would have made a note of it if he had to muzzled for exams or shots. Why haven't more people come forward? So far we have the testimony of one highly questionable cop and a miracle character witness pulled from thin air who is claiming an event that happened years ago and was never followed up on.

Convincing evidence, that.

Y'all are getting too worked up over a dog...

Ceres wrote:

Y'all are getting too worked up over a dog...

But it's not just about a dog, you see! It's about police being out of control thugs who need to learn proper control and guns being stupid and icky!

I was going to post in that thread about the election in Iran and the subsequent banning of Western journalists from that country's borders, but then I noticed that this thread was twice as long and it involved dead puppies. Clearly the case of the dipshit cop a much more pressing issue.

No one cares about the news.

Unless it's about guns, animals, or rape. And only because of the wanking.

So : cop rapes a puppy with his service weapon = WANKPOCALYPSE?

Make that "Cop rapes puppy with his service weapon, claims God made him do it in protest against abortion", just so we cover all the bases.

Now how do we work Twilight in there somehow?

The dog sparkles.

Coincidentally the name of the dog in question is Killer.

Amaziiiiinng!

Mafiosa wrote:

Coincidentally the name of the dog in question is Killer.

Amaziiiiinng!

Yeah, but that doesn't mean the dog was a killer. My name is related to a plant but I'm not a small tree.

Like Lapin said, if a dog is aggressive, you get SOME evidence. SOMEBODY on the street would surely have complained about aggressive behaviour. You'd think SOMETHING would have turned up other than word-of-mouth accounts of aggressiveness, all conveniently vague.

And yes, you could claim that the dog was a savage little bastard on the sly, but just because the dog was not reported as savage in 11 years doesn't mean it didn't exist. What it means is that the dog wasn't a problem. If it had bitten somebody on the street, that somebody would have reported it. People don't put up with dogs biting people - they get put down pretty damn fast.

Dogs bark. That's not aggressive behaviour, that's DOG behaviour. Exactly WHAT the dog did is being skimped around, so aggressive behaviour can later be classed as just about anything if they can dig up the evidence, and they are trying. This cop pulled his gun as the reflexive reaction to an 11lb dog showing 'aggressive behaviour'.

If that dog had made itself a nuisance, somebody would have reported it in 11 years. If it had ever bitten somebody, the cops WOULD have been able to turn records of it up because being bitten by a dog isn't something people let go. And you'd think that a dog with some sort of record of aggressive behaviour would, at some point in 11 years, have bitten somebody.

I don't buy this woman's story.

Mafiosa wrote:

Coincidentally the name of the dog in question is Killer.

Amaziiiiinng!

Also meet Snowball and Tiny.

InkWeaver wrote:

The dog sparkles.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.