Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 36 Location : Cedar Rapids, IA
Subject: Godawful Adaptations Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:16 pm
Yeah, I like G.I. Joe. Every now and then you need to unwind with an unambiguous story of good and evil, especially if it's got ninjas and snarky redheads in it. I did not like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. In fact, I didn't like it so much that I actually wrote papers on adaptation theory for my film class specifically laying out why it sucked. (Aced the class.) But the issue of crappy film adaptations is hardly confined to one ninja-intensive franchise.
For example, I recently saw the film version of Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief. It's the first in a series of young adult novels featuring the offspring of the Greek gods, with the central premise being that if the gods sired bastards all over the place in the ancient world, they sure as hell wouldn't stop just because it's modern times now. The Percy Jackson series displays a pretty good knowledge of Greek mythology, right down to the gods being power-hungry jackasses and Tartarus being number one on the list of places you do NOT want to be. The film adaptation, however, is . . . bleh.
It started out not bad, I thought. They had to compress the book's timeline somewhat, but that's understandable; you've only got so much screentime, and a few things can stand to be cut down a bit. The further it went, though, the more "WTF?" I encountered. By the time I got to Steve Coogan as Hades, I was pretty much done with it.
(Digression and spoilers below)
Spoiler:
Does Hollywood have a grudge against Hades or something? Being Lord of the Dead does not automatically make you a Greek version of Satan. The best treatment he's gotten recently has been from the frickin' Hercules movie, which has to be some kind of sign of the Apocalypse. I've got nothing against Steve Coogan, but one of the things I liked about the original Percy Jackson book was the ambiguous treatment of Hades: he's not nice, but he's not hur-hur-I'm-evil either. He's . . . pissy, frankly. With good reason. And his wife isn't hitting on an underaged main character.
So what about you guys? What are your favorite examples of "good book/comic/song/myth/idea, bad movie"?
Lady Anne NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 48 Location : The land of the fruits and nuts
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:49 pm
I love Batman comics, but the movie 'Batman and Robin' sucked. So did 'Batman Forever', though not as badly.
Reepicheep-chan Important Person
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 39 Location : IN A SEXY NEW CONDO
The Talented Mr. Ripley. It looks more like the adaptation of a vague description of the first book somebody made to the scriptwriters- I could bet they hadn't even read it, mostly because of the blatant character rape. They killed the keys to Tom Ripley working as a protagonist, such as the remorselessness, lack of scruples whatsoever, "being a forgetable nobody" factor, and the sexual repression bording on asexuality, and butchered him into a brittle, depressed, unstable and blatantly gay Matt Damon who
Spoiler:
CRUSHES UNDER THE PRESSURE AND GETS CAUGHT IN THE END. What the hell? As close as he is to it, Tom Ripley isn't supposed to ever get caught. That's the whole point of the books. Crime novel bordering on black comedy, not GAY TWU WUB.
And speaking of film adaptations completely missing the point, The Neverending Story comes to mind. That's so not what the book is about.
Cyberwulf NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 43 Location : TRILOBITE!
Old news, I know, but I still haven't forgiven them for it. The first two were brilliant, brilliant adaptations. Then the third movie came along, they got a new director and he apparently had a brain malfunction that caused him to shit all over everything. Seriously, any time you have to take plot content out in order to have time for your OH SO FUNNY GUYS joke scene, you are doin' it horribly, horribly rong.
EileenK98 Recovering Fanbrat
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 56 Location : very, very close to Chris
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:57 am
How about Half-Blood Prince, where major plot details (like, oh, the explanation of who the half-blood Prince was) were dispensed with in order to focus on the romance. The problem is, they assume everyone's read the books and knows what's going on, which is fine if you have actually read the books, but if you haven't (or haven't in a while and forget the details), you won't have a clue.
Miss Misery Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-10 Location : My home planet
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:10 am
The 2004 version of Salem's Lot, anyone? They should have just called it Salem's Lot: In Name Only.
Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:36 am
Any time I hear "in name only" I think of Republicans, 1970s Battlestar Galactica fans, and No Mutants Allowed. Is that really the company you want to keep?
Gamma Vector
Join date : 2010-08-25 Age : 32 Location : The Swamps of the South
How about Half-Blood Prince, where major plot details (like, oh, the explanation of who the half-blood Prince was) were dispensed with in order to focus on the romance. The problem is, they assume everyone's read the books and knows what's going on, which is fine if you have actually read the books, but if you haven't (or haven't in a while and forget the details), you won't have a clue.
You know, I would have listed that one, but the book was such a shitstorm itself that even the shitty adaptation couldn't really make things worse.
Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
How about Half-Blood Prince, where major plot details (like, oh, the explanation of who the half-blood Prince was) were dispensed with in order to focus on the romance. The problem is, they assume everyone's read the books and knows what's going on, which is fine if you have actually read the books, but if you haven't (or haven't in a while and forget the details), you won't have a clue.
You know, I would have listed that one, but the book was such a shitstorm itself that even the shitty adaptation couldn't really make things worse.
I wonder if they'll make Deathly Hallows better actually. Shouldn't be so hard...
Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
A Kid in King Arthur's Court was (technically) supposed to be based on A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. However, aside from a slight resemblance between the titles, there was nothing in Kid that resembled the original work by Mark Twain.
Blooferlady Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 33 Location : In your closet
The remake of 'Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.' There was a time I actually liked Johnny Depp (Benny and Joon is both funny and heartwarming), but turning him from Gene Wilder's sarcastic, genuinly sadistic, more than a bit mad genius into a pale, Gothic, misjunderstood little boy who just wanted to be loved was a an insult to the character and the book.
The man needs to get away from Tim Burton while he still has a career left.
InkWeaver Harriet Tubman
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 34 Location : Home of the peanuts.
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:27 am
I liked Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and I feel that, as a standalone, left uncompared to the previous movie and appreciated for what it is, it's a good film.
Reepicheep-chan Important Person
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 39 Location : IN A SEXY NEW CONDO
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:58 am
InkWeaver wrote:
I liked Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and I feel that, as a standalone, left uncompared to the previous movie and appreciated for what it is, it's a good film.
I like the way the children and parents were updated in the remake, and the visuals were fab. The rest was pretty whatever.
Gamma Vector
Join date : 2010-08-25 Age : 32 Location : The Swamps of the South
How about Half-Blood Prince, where major plot details (like, oh, the explanation of who the half-blood Prince was) were dispensed with in order to focus on the romance. The problem is, they assume everyone's read the books and knows what's going on, which is fine if you have actually read the books, but if you haven't (or haven't in a while and forget the details), you won't have a clue.
You know, I would have listed that one, but the book was such a shitstorm itself that even the shitty adaptation couldn't really make things worse.
I wonder if they'll make Deathly Hallows better actually. Shouldn't be so hard...
I'm not sure they can make it worse.
kleine_kat Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 44 Location : Lower Countries
Subject: Re: Godawful Adaptations Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:30 am
InkWeaver wrote:
I liked Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, and I feel that, as a standalone, left uncompared to the previous movie and appreciated for what it is, it's a good film.
If you leave it uncompared to the book, too, yeah, then it's a...stupid movie well done.
The Oompa-Loompas alone made me cringe. What's the whole thing with that single guy? Yes, I lolled the first time I saw 20 exactly similar tiny people, but by the time they started raping the songs, which were so cool in the book, for the sake of screen time for the Oompa-Loompa dance...ugh.
And what's with Wonka's 'Tortured Past' wank? It didn't add anything but a feeling of replacement shame and awkwardness.
So maybe that's a personal thing, but Willy Wonka the sadistic genius stands a long way removed from Willy Wonka the Micahel Jackson clone with childhood issues, and I hated Depp's version.