When a person dies of cancer, it is sad...

The description of her death utilised the words 'excruciating pain'.

Panelopie Dingle died in 2005 after being diagnosed in 2003. Her husband, Dr. Peter Dingle, is a Professor of Environmental Toxicology at Murdoch University in Perth. He has several books out all promoting homoeopathy.

Following the recent conviction of a a homeopath father who caused the painful death of his own daughter by deciding to treat the child's eczema with sugar pills and water rather than hydrocortisone cream and steroids, there is a chance that Dr. Dingle may be convicted for this.

There are complications so far as the case is concerned, check here for a breakdown but recently Australia, in particular, has begun clamping down on these frauds, liars, idiots and extortionists.

This is very, very sad. Magic wishing water doesn't cure cancer, kids.

Another concern of mine is that the homeopath husband is an environmental toxicologist. Surely he must believe all water is hopelessly contaminated as it once contained a molecule of pollution. Which makes it SUPER POLLUTED.

Well, my last grain of respect for homeopathy has just flown out the window.

you even had a single grain of respect for homeopathy? seriously, lol

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Chris91 wrote:

Well, my last grain of respect for homeopathy has just flown out the window.

It's still there. Water has memory, don't you know.

I don't believe in any kind of alternative medicine. If it worked, it would just be called "medicine".

to be honest herbalism for the most part has the backing of thousands of years of humanity surviving on it but it is also hella easy to fuck up if you don't know your plants

WD40 wrote:

Following the recent conviction of a a homeopath father who caused the painful death of his own daughter by deciding to treat the child's eczema with sugar pills and water rather than hydrocortisone cream and steroids, there is a chance that Dr. Dingle may be convicted for this.

Not to mention the effect on his wife, who deferred to him as dictated by culture and was then given a term of over five years (compared to the eight given to the man responsible for the whole mess) for 'failing in her duty'.

SirDixonDongs wrote:

to be honest herbalism for the most part has the backing of thousands of years of humanity surviving on it but it is also hella easy to fuck up if you don't know your plants

Real medicine has about 100-200 years of increasing life spans and the overall health of the population.

it still started with "here eat this leaf"

SirDixonDongs wrote:

to be honest herbalism for the most part has the backing of thousands of years of humanity surviving on it but it is also hella easy to fuck up if you don't know your plants

Yeah, like Meadowsweet, if you cook it like tea, and drink it, it will alleviate your headache.

And then a bunch of party-pooping scientist came along, tested it proper with science, found its active ingredient to be salycilic acid, created a synthetic variant that is less upsetting to the stomach called acetylsalicylic acid, and used it as an active ingredient in Aspirin.

And it's the same story with all the other drugs. There is herbal medicine, then we test it, and the stuff that works becomes medicine, and the rest is just a bowl of soup and potpourri.

Pharmacology is a much more refined version of herbalism.

SirDixonDongs wrote:

it still started with "here eat this leaf"

And it almost ended there, because it was Nettle.

TheHermit wrote:

I don't believe in any kind of alternative medicine. If it worked, it would just be called medicine

SirDixonDongs wrote:

it still started with "here eat this leaf

Psy-4 wrote:

And then a bunch of party-pooping scientist came along, tested it proper with science, found its active ingredient to be salycilic acid, created a synthetic variant that is less upsetting to the stomach called acetylsalicylic acid, and used it as an active ingredient in Aspirin.

Jump to the 2.56 min mark to see my IAWTP point... Or just watch the whole thing, Dara O'Brian is awesome!

ZoZo wrote:

^The thing about homeopathy is that it is completely useless. It's just water dripped onto a sugar pill. Really. It's not herbal medicine. It's water.

Sugar water! WTF? In other words is's about the same as drinking a glass of water and eating a couple of sweets. Wow. I have no words to describe how gullible somebody would have to be to believe that sugar water is going to cure a terminal illness. Honestly, some people have like, no critical thinking skills whatsoever. I didn't know what homeopathy was before you just told me, I'm aghast that anyone would think it would have any medicinal value. In a way it sort of reminds me of Scientologists believing that mental illness is cured by auditing and not with proper psychiatric care and the appropriate meds to correct imbalances.

I tried homeopathic remedies for chronic tonsillitis when I was 21. Not surprisingly, they didn't help (a tonsillectomy did). They tasted nice, but candy is a lot cheaper.

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