As a few WGWers probably know, Showgirls has long been my favorite bad movie of all time. At long last, it has a successor in the form of The Room, the ambiguously Eastern-Bloc accented Tommy Wiseau's woefully deformed, self-funded brain child.
The Room was originally released back in 2003 as a would-be chamber drama that though itself in the same league as a Tennessee Williams play. Being unintentionally hilarious, it quickly bombed. What saved it from falling into obscurity, however, was the attention it via an enormous billboard advertisement on an L.A highway. Wiseau decided to parlay the interest of film geeks into monthly midnight screenings- which have been wildly popular. Like the Paul Verhoeven before him with Showgirls, he of course has tried to say that it was supposed to be a "black comedy" all along.
The movie, boiled down to is essence, is the story of a love triangle. Johnny (played by Wiseau) is devoted to his girlfriend Lisa (played by a clearly off-the-bus Juliette Danielle). She, meanwhile, is cheating on him with his handsome best friend, Mark (Greg Sestero). This, all by itself, is comical for a variety of reasons. One, to say that the incredibly creepy Wiseau is an unlikely leading man would be kind. He is a pockmarked, wonky-eyed, weirdly muscled mess sporting a long mane of tangled drugstore black hair. What makes this even odder is the fact that his character is supposed to be a banker. Banks and similar financial institutions are famous for having extremely conservative dress and grooming codes. Secondly, the character of Lisa fully embodies the "informed attractiveness" trope. The other players of the film ooh and ahh over her beauty, and she is clearly intended to be a Sharon Stone-esque femme fatale. While her IMDb profile pictures reveal her to be a very pretty girl in real life, this film does absolutely nothing for her. She resembles in this role, as one reviewer put it, "the bloated corpse of Britney Spears." Her hair is styled into a bleach blond crimped bob with straight bangs teamed with dark eyebrows and the on-set stylist clearly hated her. Mark is actually the only mildly believable, if dull, member of this love triangle.
But that's not all. Random characters and elements pop in and out of the plot. Lisa's mother, Claudette, mentions casually that she has breast cancer. We never hear about it again. Denny, the Chris-Chan-esque kidult whom Johnny has taken under his wing, gets in trouble with some drug dealers. We never hear about this again. Dialogue is bizarre, with characters repeating the same phrases over and over again. Wiseau presents a laughable portrayal of male companionship, which apparently involves throwing a football around at random, inside, three feet away from each other. The movie is set in San Francisco but was filmed in Los Angeles. Rooftop scenes, instead of being shot outside, are shot on the world's most obvious green screen. The entire thing drips with earnest ineptitude. Need a laugh? Find clips from The Room on youtube.
SlyChild Sporkbender
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Subject: Re: The Room Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:08 pm
Oh, haiii, movie thread.
Achtung Baby
Join date : 2009-09-15
Subject: Re: The Room Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:10 pm
I, ahem, don't get it. I did a search for this topic and it didn't come up. What's the major malfunction here?
Mr.Doobie Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-10-23 Location : under the sink
Subject: Re: The Room Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:50 am
I know I read about this in a magazine somewhere (I think it was TIME) and I know the article I read on it trumpeted it as brilliant avant-garde masterpiece. They said the funky dialogue and the general badness was an artistic statement about language. Or some shit. I don't know, I just thought it sounded really stupid.
So now I guess all you have to do to make a bad movie not bad is to grow a beard and start mumbling to interviewers about how "avant-garde" it is and about how critics "just didn't get it". Than all the critics will be rushing to ferociously masturbate over your movie-shaped piece of shit in a desperate attempt to show that they "get it" and that they're hip and artistic and smart. Than everyone will be watching your movie and discussing and dissecting it in a similarily desperate attempt to "get it" and be as hip and smart as the critics.
Meanwhile you laugh all the way to the bank, while everyone else faux-orgasms over a horribly shitty movie that never even had a meaning in the first place.
Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
Subject: Re: The Room Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:17 am
Achtung Baby wrote:
Mark is actually the only mildly believable, if dull, member of this love triangle.
You know what the really weird thing is? I used to know a guy who looked almost EXACTLY like the guy who plays Mark, except the guy I knew was really skinny. Everytime I see The Room I get this kind of deja-vu feeling.
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Denny, the Chris-Chan-esque kidult whom Johnny has taken under his wing, gets in trouble with some drug dealers. We never hear about this again.
Ohhhhh, that doesn't begin to cover the sheer WTFery that is Denny. I mean, the kid likes to watch while his best friend/surrogate father and said best friend/surrogate father's "future wife" make out. And he says so.
Selenite
Join date : 2010-02-01
Subject: Re: The Room Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:26 pm
I MUST see this movie. This could possibly a film of MANOS proportions. I managed to catch the Nostalgia Critic's review before it was taken down and after reading about this phenomenon I have become obsessed.
Lurv Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 35
Subject: Re: The Room Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:00 pm
Selenite wrote:
I MUST see this movie. This could possibly a film of MANOS proportions. I managed to catch the Nostalgia Critic's review before it was taken down and after reading about this phenomenon I have become obsessed.
It was taken down? Why?
Raine Challenge Winner!
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Subject: Re: The Room Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:38 pm
Selenite wrote:
I MUST see this movie. This could possibly a film of MANOS proportions. I managed to catch the Nostalgia Critic's review before it was taken down and after reading about this phenomenon I have become obsessed.
It was taken down? Wow, I'm glad I managed to catch it then. I wonder why he did...
Selenite
Join date : 2010-02-01
Subject: Re: The Room Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:58 pm
Take a look, it's not there. Thankfully, you can still find it here:
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 37 Location : Australia
Subject: Re: The Room Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:53 pm
And strange, everyone else on the TGWTG have taken down their own reviews of the movie too.
Selenite
Join date : 2010-02-01
Subject: Re: The Room Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:08 am
Pity. I can definitely understand copyright protection but exposure like that is what makes people want to see the movie.
Majin Gojira Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 41 Location : Philadelphia
Subject: Re: The Room Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:42 am
Given that they were reviews, that seems unlikely or inane on the part of the original producers/copyright holders, and only a sign that says "Hey, we have money, lets throw it around and scare people, even though we don't have a leg to stand on!"
Which, actually happens frequently now that I think of it...so never mind.
KJM Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 45
Subject: Re: The Room Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:42 am
Achtung Baby wrote:
Lisa's mother, Claudette, mentions casually that she has breast cancer. We never hear about it again.
Having watched that scene, I got the impression that she'd just made that up, for whatever reason.
gaijinguy Shitgobbling pissdrinker
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Subject: Re: The Room Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:31 pm
An explanation has appeared.
Lembech Sporkbender
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Subject: Re: The Room Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:45 pm
gaijinguy wrote:
An explanation has appeared.
Um, from what I'm getting, NC took it down despite the law practically being on his side. *clicks teeth*
Wow, I never thought I'd see "acting" this bad since Be Cool. And what's with the diagonal sex scene? It's boggling the hell out of me.
Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
Subject: Re: The Room Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:57 pm
Lembech wrote:
And what's with the diagonal sex scene? It's boggling the hell out of me.
You mean the "sex on the stairs" scene? That just looked hella uncomfortable. I mean, ow.
Lembech Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 34
Subject: Re: The Room Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:17 pm
Malganis wrote:
Lembech wrote:
And what's with the diagonal sex scene? It's boggling the hell out of me.
You mean the "sex on the stairs" scene? That just looked hella uncomfortable. I mean, ow.
That too, and that angle Johnny was doing Lisa at. It really did look like he was fucking her in the navel.
Speaking of Johnny, he keeps doing this weird snarling face throughout the movie. You know, that look some male big cats give when they just picked up the scent of a female in heat? Yeah, that look. It's like he's orgasming with every line.
gaijinguy Shitgobbling pissdrinker
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Subject: Re: The Room Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:47 pm
Lembech wrote:
gaijinguy wrote:
An explanation has appeared.
Um, from what I'm getting, NC took it down despite the law practically being on his side. *clicks teeth*
Yeah, but it's doubtful that he can afford the cost and bother of a lawlsuit.
Sara Jaye Sporkbender
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Subject: Re: The Room Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:14 pm
Yaaay, a thread for "The Room"!
Tommy Wiseau's acting was...THE worst acting I'd ever seen. My sister once said the acting on the Nickelodeon show "My Brother and Me" sounded like they were reciting straight from the script, but the Johnny character was WAY worse.
But DAMN, I am SO tempted to order a copy and watch it for the lulz. Maybe go on a sleep deprivation bender, see if that makes it any more fucked up than it already is.
I'm just glad NC's review is still accessible on YouTube. I hope it stays that way.
KJM Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 45
Subject: Re: The Room Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:46 pm
gaijinguy wrote:
An explanation has appeared.
"You're lying! That's not Fair Use! You're tearing me apart, Critic!"
Reepicheep-chan Important Person
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Subject: Re: The Room Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:43 pm
Selenite wrote:
Take a look, it's not there. Thankfully, you can still find it here:
My pleasure. The Room is something that must be shared.
KJM Sporkbender
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Subject: Re: The Room Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:32 pm
It's been reposted.
TheIan Armbiter of Good Fanfiction
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Subject: Re: The Room Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:07 am
KJM wrote:
It's been reposted.
Holy shit, that movie is bad. Much as I love Nostalgia Critic, that movie above all other things is bad. And I thought Uwe Boll was a joke. Tommy Wiseau can't act to save his life.
Knight Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 35
Subject: Re: The Room Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:45 pm
Lembech wrote:
gaijinguy wrote:
An explanation has appeared.
Um, from what I'm getting, NC took it down despite the law practically being on his side. *clicks teeth*
Wow, I never thought I'd see "acting" this bad since Be Cool. And what's with the diagonal sex scene? It's boggling the hell out of me.
Actually Doug had nothing to do with its removal. Blip got a copyright claim from Wiseau's production studio and so they took it down. None of the Critics from Channel Awesome had anything to do with removing their reviews I'd imagine. A shame that Blip bowed so easily instead of looking into the matter first, but it seems they have done so now and as mentioned above, it is back.
Also for those of you that might be interested, there is a Rifftrax for The Room.