Taylor Momsen admits using a vibrator, self-appointed moral guardians baaaaw

In an actual proper response to the question, I assume it's because sex with yourself is sex.

I'LL tell you what the problem here is. Obviously masturbation for women is exactly the same as masturbation for men - and if you masturbate you are killing precious seeds for the making of babies.

So by masturbating on occassion, I'm killing unborn babies even if I've never had sex with another person?
Wow, I guess I'm going to hell.

karmyn31 wrote:

So by masturbating on occassion, I'm killing unborn babies even if I've never had sex with another person?
Wow, I guess I'm going to hell.

Technically, only the men would be killing the potential unborn (what with ejaculating sperm and all). A woman's egg never makes it any further than her uterus.

Rabid Badger wrote:

karmyn31 wrote:

So by masturbating on occassion, I'm killing unborn babies even if I've never had sex with another person?
Wow, I guess I'm going to hell.

Technically, only the men would be killing the potential unborn (what with ejaculating sperm and all). A woman's egg never makes it any further than her uterus.

I wonder how many of the people who wail that masturbation kills babies realize that even when pregnancy does occur, only one out of millions of sperm actually fertilize the egg. The rest die.

Malganis wrote:

Seule wrote:

POSSIBLY UNPOPULAR OPINION:

No, I get it, and in theory I agree. Maybe it's because you could use a dildo, vibe, etc., with a partner as well, and that's why they're restricted? Don't know.

I agree that putting age restrictions on masterbatory aides is kinda dumb, but on the other hand I understand why it makes people uncomfortable. If they pushed it back to 15 or so that would be golden, IMO (although if they sold vibes to preschoolers I would not be whipped into a frenzy about it either). What drives me crazy is the fact that sex toys are completely illegal all over the place. Srsly, it drives me nuts when a website disclaims every sex toy as being "a novelty only not meant for real use" not because it is true, but to cover their ass. That strikes me as dangerous. One of these days I am going to stick the wrong thing in my cootch because I ignored the novelty only warning...

Drabbler wrote:

Why does the name Bill Donohue sound familiar? I've heard it somewhere recently....

EDIT: Wait, I got it. He's the guy who cried discrimination when the Empire State Building wouldn't light up for Mother Teresa.

He's also one of the noisiest most heartfelt complainers about the alleged "War on Christmas". And he defended Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ as follows:

William A. Donohue wrote:

Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general
and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, OK? And I'm not
afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus
Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the Messiah.

Rabid Badger wrote:

karmyn31 wrote:

So by masturbating on occassion, I'm killing unborn babies even if I've never had sex with another person?
Wow, I guess I'm going to hell.

Technically, only the men would be killing the potential unborn (what with ejaculating sperm and all). A woman's egg never makes it any further than her uterus.

Brice Wellington -- aka BriceBrice, aka BriceW Man of GOD! -- was the scourge (or, arguably, chief entertainment) of alt.atheism for a period in the early 1990s, with his series of postings about how masturbation would lead people to disease, homosexuality, and hell. At one point he claimed that female masturbation would lead a woman's yet-unconceived children to be born gay or with "down Syndrom" {sic}. (He also argued that foreplay caused cancer.)

Obviously these people don't get that women don't ejaculate. Besides, men make sperm almost all their lives, but women only have a limited number of eggs from birth, and that egg isn't always in the uterus anyway.

Even if individual eggs were the equivalent of unborn babies, that egg will die without fertilisation anyway, so it's like, the only way you're not going to kill unborn babies is to have a baby every month.

But of course, any act of love that isn't producing a baby is evil in some people's eyes.

Nihilist wrote:

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

Obviously these people don't get that women don't ejaculate.

lol

Well, not in the "expels sperm-bearing, testicle-generated fluid" sense, to be fair.

I mean, jeez, they're pretending that masturbation hasn't been going on since animals first had the ability to touch their genitals? That's right, animals masturbate too.

Good grief, what are people supposed to do? Be strapped to a production line and only brought forward to use their genitals when it's time to mate?

If they have a problem with masturbation, maybe they should stop whining about people using dildos and maybe pay a little attention to people who like having car batteries hooked up to their genitals?

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

That's right, animals masturbate too.

Only you would know that, Harley. Only you.

XLT-100852.0 wrote:

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

That's right, animals masturbate too.

Only you would know that, Harley. Only you.

Dolphins. Masturbating, rapist dolphins.

Dolphins are also racist.

The assholes.

InkWeaver wrote:

XLT-100852.0 wrote:

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

That's right, animals masturbate too.

Only you would know that, Harley. Only you.

Dolphins. Masturbating, rapist dolphins.

And bonobos. I swear, the only thing funnier than going on a family trip to the zoo, visiting the bonobo exhibit, and howling with laughter at a tiny little kid going "Mommy, Daddy, what's that monkey doing?" as a male bonobo starts going at it, right in front of the glass, was watching the kid's parents looking like they wanted the earth to swallow them whole rather than have to answer the question.

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

If they have a problem with masturbation, maybe they should stop whining about people using dildos and maybe pay a little attention to people who like having car batteries hooked up to their genitals?

Or their rather wide-stanced leaders waving at people from under bathroom stalls.

At least she's not getting knocked up like Jamie Lynn Spears or that other chick, whats her name. But she was 18 so it's not as bad.

but as I learned from Monty Python. strangling small animals is a valid hobby, but masturbation is not.

Masturbation is using the vagina for something other than God intended it for!

That's right, sex is not supposed to be pleasurable! It's for making babies!

Okay, that didn't work out as quite the cutting remark I intended. Sex is for making good Christian babies. And any act that doesn't create a baby is evil, PURE EVIL I TELL YOU!!!!!

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

Okay, that didn't work out as quite the cutting remark I intended.

Harley, your remarks are about as cutting as a butter knife.

Mr.Doobie wrote:

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

Okay, that didn't work out as quite the cutting remark I intended.

Harley, your remarks are about as cutting as a butter knife.

No, but she does have a point. Christians are the ultimate Stop Having Fun guys.

^
You've never met a Muslim, have you?

How about devoutly religious people are the ultimate Stop Having Fun guys? No matter what completely arbitrary and stupid restrictions they're imposing, they do it in exactly the same stupid way.

Yeah, but Christians seem to be louder.

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

Yeah, but Christians seem to be louder.

Unless you happen to be within the blast radius of a suicide bomber.
The Christian fundies seem to favour range over intensity, for the Muslims it's the opposite, but from where I stand they sound equally retarded, like that Nickelback meddle of a few years ago.

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:

Yeah, but Christians seem to be louder.

Oh yeah, those wacky Christians hijacking planes and ramming them into buildings. rabble rabble christians rabble rabble