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PostSubject: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 5:29 pm

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Underage drinking, smoking marijuana and pole-dancing aren't exactly high school traditions to be proud of, but a Dallas High School student said it all happened during an event billed as a "tradition" with chaperons.

Funny, this wasn't a tradition at either of the high schools I attended...

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She said the girls were forced for several hours into uncomfortable situations that included yelling obscenities at fast-food drive-through windows and pole-dancing on street signs.

Given the current state of the economy, those pole-dancing lessons might be very useful upon graduation.

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She said they were also covered with eggs, flour, mustard, ketchup and mayonnaise, forced to take off their bras and wear them around their necks and run through sprinkler systems wearing their pajamas. The teenager also said that several of the freshman girls were forced to simulate oral sex with a cucumber.

Yet another skill that may come in handy given the current economy. However, I don't think that they should learn this stuff this way.

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The girl said she peeked out from under her blindfold at one of the stops to find more than a dozen older high school boys there with the group in a parking lot.

She said she didn't know where the parking lot was, but could see the boys drinking alcohol and could smell marijuana smoke in the air. The 11th-grade girls forced one of the freshman girls to give a "lap dance" to several of the boys while some of the older girls took photographs, she said.

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*Sigh* it seems these days anyone will take advantage of anyone if they can. Whatever happened to good clean fun. I hope that whomever is responsible is sent to prison, even if it is juvenile hall.
I recently saw a quote that I'm reminded of.

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By screwing up the economy this bad, we have guaranteed that our sons become thieves and our daughters become hookers.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:06 pm

*Expects people to blow it off and say "kids will be kids"*

NOW are people going to question why I don't like teenagers?
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Underage drinking, smoking marijuana and pole-dancing aren't exactly high school traditions to be proud of, but a Dallas High School student said it all happened during an event billed as a "tradition" with chaperons.

This is why I regret being homeschooled.

Also, Freshmen need to STFU. Razz I mean, kids are going to be kids, how can you not like them? :lolinsane:
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:13 pm

Why didn't they just fucking leave instead of continuing to be humiliated.

Or, you know, why didn't the chaperones do anything.

In b4 every answer that isn't "They are stupid"
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:19 pm

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Story here

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Underage drinking, smoking marijuana and pole-dancing aren't exactly high school traditions to be proud of, but a Dallas High School student said it all happened during an event billed as a "tradition" with chaperons.

Funny, this wasn't a tradition at either of the high schools I attended...

Or at my high school either. Matter of fact, if any of my classmates had been caught even CONSIDERING pole-dancing at a school-sponsored event, they would have been lucky not to get publicly hanged.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:31 pm

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Why didn't they just fucking leave instead of continuing to be humiliated.

Because the one thing most teenagers live in mortal fear of is not being cool.

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Or, you know, why didn't the chaperones do anything.

I got the impression that any chaperones they had were the same age or a little older than they were.

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In b4 every answer that isn't "They are stupid"

They're no more stupid than your average high school kid who wants to fit in. They just don't have the experience to know that allowing yourself to be publically humiliated so you can be popular generally isn't worth it in the end.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:35 pm

It's not even worth it in the beginning.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:37 pm

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I got the impression that any chaperones they had were the same age or a little older than they were.

Oh, I see it was the junior girls. I thought the parents were there. Mea culpa; reading fail

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Because the one thing most teenagers live in mortal fear of is not being cool.

So they're idiots. Sucking off a cucumber is pretty uncool in my books.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 6:49 pm

Not to mention downright gross.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 8:39 pm

When I was in high school, we had a hazing ritual of sorts for the Thespian Club. Potential members had to dress up in weird costumes and do strange things. At the time I joined, one girl had to put a long stocking stuffed with socks under a trenchcoat and then "expose" herself in Kentucky Fried Chicken. When I was one of the ones doing the hazing, I made my victim initiate wear a reboso (this was a guy) and dance with a stuffed animal in Walmart. At the same time, another soon-to-be member had to dress as a girl (this was another guy) and serenade someone in Walmart. Unfortunately, he serenaded a major homophobe, who tried to beat him up.

I guess I was lucky--when I was initiated, I just had to dress like a hippie and say everything was groovy and far out (also known as my usual mode of dress, just the speech was different).
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyTue Oct 06, 2009 9:39 pm

Chris, how is putting a vegetable in your mouth gross? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 4:22 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 4:45 pm

Mafiosa wrote:
Why didn't they just fucking leave instead of continuing to be humiliated.
Well, repeated use of the verb "forced" might be a clue.

Rabid Badger wrote:
Mafiosa wrote:
Why didn't they just fucking leave instead of continuing to be humiliated.

Because the one thing most teenagers live in mortal fear of is not being cool.
That explains all the hazing that takes place on college campuses.

Nice victim-blaming, assholes. I haven't seen a single word directed at the people bullying them into this shit (except Darth, but fuck him for calling thirteen year old girls sluts in the Roman Polanski thread). Oh, and Lady Anne bragging about being bullying someone else into publicly humiliating himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 5:15 pm

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She said the girls were forced for several hours into uncomfortable situations that included yelling obscenities at fast-food drive-through windows and pole-dancing on street signs.

Given the current state of the economy, those pole-dancing lessons might be very useful upon graduation.

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The teenager also said that several of the freshman girls were forced to simulate oral sex with a cucumber.

Yet another skill that may come in handy given the current economy.

I do hope you're 'joking'.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 5:22 pm

Because victims are never idiots amirite. This a good situation where these people very much allowed themselves to be victims and for what? Who would agree to the shit that alleged to happen? Morons, that's who.

And I didn't think we needed page upon page of "OMG SO HORRIBLE THESE PEOPLE ARE MEEN I NEED BRAIN BLEACH SPORK LOL" when it's well established that the hazers are, indeed, assholes. Just so you know, the water from the sprinklers were wet and the cucumber was green.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 6:08 pm

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Because victims are never idiots amirite. This a good situation where these people very much allowed themselves to be victims and for what? Who would agree to the shit that alleged to happen? Morons, that's who.

Are you seriously fucking stupid. Yeah, I'm totally sure the girls went into it knowing they'd be expected to pole dance and blow cucumbers. Look, they got into a situation they thought was going to be safe and then things went south. The junior girls picked them up; they had a position of power in terms of seniority, knowledge of what was going to happen, and control of movement. The girls also didn't expect to have a bunch of random older strangers around to watch them get humiliated, in addition to not expecting to be humiliated in the first place.

Hazing is a real goddamn problem. Shut the fuck up.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 6:17 pm

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Yeah, I'm totally sure the girls went into it knowing they'd be expected to pole dance and blow cucumbers.

This is what some students are claiming (!) but that's not my point. All of these activities were said to happen on or around campus. Why not call home or just walk away? When things get shitty why stick around?

Authority is great when it's acting in your interests or protecting you but in this case that obviously wasn't happening. Once they figure out they weren't going to be having a silly little kidnapping and light breakfast they should have got the fuck out and fast. The moment they told me to blow a cucumber I would've beat feet.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 7:13 pm

Hazing was common in the colleges around my country, until people started to die and the law cracked down on the practice.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyWed Oct 07, 2009 7:23 pm

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Oh, and Lady Anne bragging about being bullying someone else into publicly humiliating himself.
Ok, to be fair, I could see a good deal of the kids in thespian club doing most of that shit willingly. They're attention fetishists.

And I say this as a former thespian.
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Mafiosa wrote:
All of these activities were said to happen on or around campus. Why not call home or just walk away? When things get shitty why stick around?

Authority is great when it's acting in your interests or protecting you but in this case that obviously wasn't happening. Once they figure out they weren't going to be having a silly little kidnapping and light breakfast they should have got the fuck out and fast. The moment they told me to blow a cucumber I would've beat feet.
Mafiosa, you can't be serious. "Just walk away" is a patch solution for people who have never been in the situation it applies to. You are seriously blaming high school students for not trying to walk home alone in the middle of the night from places they couldn't even identify? Even if they could raise the courage to walk away, which isn't nearly as easy as people say it is, they could've gotten into an even worse situation striking out on their own. It sounds like it escalated throughout the night, and by the time it went from uncomfortable-but-tolerable stuff like yelling at drive-thrus to blatantly cruel sexual abuse, they didn't even know where they were. Driving blind is incredibly disorienting, and while the journalist may be able to state that the locations were on campus, the girls could've easily been lost and thought they were much farther away.

Seriously, it's just...fucking rancid. I'm really surprised, Mafi.
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PostSubject: Re: Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing   Freshman accuses mentor program of hazing EmptyThu Oct 08, 2009 12:17 am

Delcat wrote:
Mafiosa wrote:
All of these activities were said to happen on or around campus. Why not call home or just walk away? When things get shitty why stick around?

Authority is great when it's acting in your interests or protecting you but in this case that obviously wasn't happening. Once they figure out they weren't going to be having a silly little kidnapping and light breakfast they should have got the fuck out and fast. The moment they told me to blow a cucumber I would've beat feet.
Mafiosa, you can't be serious. "Just walk away" is a patch solution for people who have never been in the situation it applies to. You are seriously blaming high school students for not trying to walk home alone in the middle of the night from places they couldn't even identify? Even if they could raise the courage to walk away, which isn't nearly as easy as people say it is, they could've gotten into an even worse situation striking out on their own. It sounds like it escalated throughout the night, and by the time it went from uncomfortable-but-tolerable stuff like yelling at drive-thrus to blatantly cruel sexual abuse, they didn't even know where they were. Driving blind is incredibly disorienting, and while the journalist may be able to state that the locations were on campus, the girls could've easily been lost and thought they were much farther away.

Seriously, it's just...fucking rancid.

So at what point to people stop expecting their mommies to come save them from the mean 1-2 year older juniors and start standing up for themselves.
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Chris, how is putting a vegetable in your mouth gross? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Because chances are some fanboy is fapping to it right now online. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

*Shudder* There's an image in my head I could live without. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Mafiosa wrote:
Delcat wrote:
Mafiosa wrote:
All of these activities were said to happen on or around campus. Why not call home or just walk away? When things get shitty why stick around?

Authority is great when it's acting in your interests or protecting you but in this case that obviously wasn't happening. Once they figure out they weren't going to be having a silly little kidnapping and light breakfast they should have got the fuck out and fast. The moment they told me to blow a cucumber I would've beat feet.
Mafiosa, you can't be serious. "Just walk away" is a patch solution for people who have never been in the situation it applies to. You are seriously blaming high school students for not trying to walk home alone in the middle of the night from places they couldn't even identify? Even if they could raise the courage to walk away, which isn't nearly as easy as people say it is, they could've gotten into an even worse situation striking out on their own. It sounds like it escalated throughout the night, and by the time it went from uncomfortable-but-tolerable stuff like yelling at drive-thrus to blatantly cruel sexual abuse, they didn't even know where they were. Driving blind is incredibly disorienting, and while the journalist may be able to state that the locations were on campus, the girls could've easily been lost and thought they were much farther away.

Seriously, it's just...fucking rancid.

So at what point to people stop expecting their mommies to come save them from the mean 1-2 year older juniors and start standing up for themselves.
Honestly Mafi, you've been so consistently dumbassed lately that it's making me wonder in earnest if your account's been hacked.


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Oh, and Lady Anne bragging about being bullying someone else into publicly humiliating himself.
Ok, to be fair, I could see a good deal of the kids in thespian club doing most of that shit willingly. They're attention fetishists.

And I say this as a former thespian.

(Remembers fondly) Thespian induction was a ton of fun. I got to be a Barbie princess. I could have lived without Grovelling Day, but even that was pretty funny, just a little embarassing. I made my inductee dress up like American McGee's Alice and sing "White Rabbit". My other inductee had to be Little Boy Blue and recite the poem when commanded.

There wasn't a lot of bullying in our hazing. We were all too nice to actually bully anyone who got a little freaked out. One girl was shy and begged us not to make her sing in the hallways, so we, you know, didn't.

I don't get the minds of the hazers we see in papers. How is that shit funny anymore? I feel for the girls who went hrough this. It'll probably put them off school groups for awhile, which is a shame. Not to mention the public humiliation, because now the whole school knows.
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So at what point to people stop expecting their mommies to come save them from the mean 1-2 year older juniors and start standing up for themselves.

You know, you're right. I mean, it's not like it they were lost or confused and possibly outnumb...ered...

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The girl, who did not want to be identified to avoid retaliation at school, said she and her fellow 9th-graders were driven around blindfolded after they were picked up early Friday morning.
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The girl said she peeked out from under her blindfold at one of the stops to find more than a dozen older high school boys there with the group in a parking lot.
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She said she didn't know where the parking lot was, but could see the boys drinking alcohol and could smell marijuana smoke in the air.
Oh. Well, at least if things had gotten too out of hand the older girls might have stepped up for them, right?

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The 11th-grade girls forced one of the freshman girls to give a "lap dance" to several of the boys while some of the older girls took photographs, she said.
Ah. Nevermind.

Do you really not see how fighting back or trying to walk away in this situation might have made things worse for them? I'm going to go with Bam on this one; you're either trolling or your account's been hacked.
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