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PostSubject: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptySun Aug 23, 2009 6:39 pm

It was to finance an abortion for a 14 year-old he was accused of raping.

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Aurelio Vallerillo-Sanchez, 39, of Omaha pleaded no contest to the charges Friday and faces up to 70 years in prison when sentenced in October, Douglas County prosecutor Brenda Beadle said Saturday.


Beadle said Vallerillo-Sanchez fled to Mexico with the 300-year-old painting worth $100,000 and the pregnant teen in March 2007. "The plan was that when they got to Mexico, she was to undergo an abortion," she said.


When an abortion wasn't possible, Vallerillo-Sanchez pushed to have the baby given up for adoption, Beadle said: "He wanted to do everything he could to get rid of this baby 'cause it was evidence against him."


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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptySun Aug 23, 2009 6:48 pm

How expensive is an abortion? Surely not $100,000. There have got to be easier criminal acts that could have worked, if this guy is so determined to be an asshole.

I hope the girl is doing okay. What apparently happened to her is bad enough without being pressured to have an abortion and whisked off to Mexico.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptySun Aug 23, 2009 7:05 pm

Maybe he shouldn't have raped her in the first place. Then he wouldn't be in this mess.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptySun Aug 23, 2009 8:37 pm

Other news articles point out that it was a Virgin May painting. I swear, there's a pretentiously dramatic indie movie somewhere in there.
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And here I thought he wanted to masturbate on it.

This is less idiotic and much more disgusting.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptySun Aug 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Mikey Go WOOGA wrote:
And here I thought he wanted to masturbate on it.

This is less idiotic and much more disgusting.

...I thought that too, actually. pale

That being said, how stupid is this guy to think that he could steal this painting, sell it, and get away with the money? What a moron.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyMon Aug 24, 2009 11:03 am

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How expensive is an abortion? Surely not $100,000. There have got to be easier criminal acts that could have worked, if this guy is so determined to be an asshole.

I hope the girl is doing okay. What apparently happened to her is bad enough without being pressured to have an abortion and whisked off to Mexico.

According to Planned Parenthood, it can be from $350 to $900. It costs more the further along you are. Hospitals cost more than health centers. Probably not up to $100,000. Maybe the guy wanted some cash left over to buy condoms? I don't know.
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyMon Aug 24, 2009 11:12 am

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Mikey Go WOOGA wrote:
And here I thought he wanted to masturbate on it.

This is less idiotic and much more disgusting.

...I thought that too, actually. pale
I thought that too. I've been in internets too long.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyMon Aug 24, 2009 11:27 am

Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyMon Aug 24, 2009 12:21 pm

Okay, he wanted her to have an abortion in Mexico. It would have been quicker to kill her himself instead of slowly dying of blood loss or infection from a botched abortion. Is abortion legal in Mexico? It is a heavily Catholic country. People freaked out when their divorced President remarried.
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Verandering wrote:
Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.
Oh Vandy, she'll never get it; you've been far too subtle there.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyMon Aug 24, 2009 7:45 pm

The story says he only sold it for $3K. Which makes sense- he wasn't paying for an abortion in a vacuum, he needed to pay for transportation, food, lodging, etc. etc. Also, I doubt that fences are going to give you anything approaching market price- stealing something that valuable was a good way to get enough money, with a margin for error, without having to haggle or shop around.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyTue Aug 25, 2009 3:56 am

Man, this guy is a bastard.

Of course, there's the detail that we don't know how the girl feels about having the baby but it doesn't look like she was gonna get much choice.
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Verandering wrote:
Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.

The age of consent in Georgia (U.S.A.) is 14. It's also legal in parts of Japan and parts of the Middle East.
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Melissa wrote:
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Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.

The age of consent in Georgia (U.S.A.) is 14. It's also legal in parts of Japan and parts of the Middle East.
Sorry but i think 14 years is kind of young to have sex - Most 14 year olds aren't very adult. In Finland the age of Consent is 16 as well and we are quite liberal as well, though not as liberal as Netherlands.
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And here I thought he wanted to masturbate on it.

This is less idiotic and much more disgusting.

...I thought that too, actually. pale
I thought that too. I've been in internets too long.

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Sorsa A. Jänis wrote:
Melissa wrote:
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Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.

The age of consent in Georgia (U.S.A.) is 14. It's also legal in parts of Japan and parts of the Middle East.
Sorry but i think 14 years is kind of young to have sex - Most 14 year olds aren't very adult. In Finland the age of Consent is 16 as well and we are quite liberal as well, though not as liberal as Netherlands.

Not saying what's right or wrong, just saying what is. Personally, I don't think there's one exact age since individual people mature at different rates. But, you are right that most 14 year olds aren't very adult. I knew girls in high school who would sleep with older men and threaten to tell the police if the girl didn't get what she wanted. No angels on either side here.
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PostSubject: Re: Man steals painting of Virgin Mary. The reason why is much much worse.   Man steals painting of Virgin Mary.  The reason why is much much worse. EmptyTue Aug 25, 2009 1:48 pm

Melissa wrote:

Not saying what's right or wrong, just saying what is. Personally, I don't think there's one exact age since individual people mature at different rates. But, you are right that most 14 year olds aren't very adult. I knew girls in high school who would sleep with older men and threaten to tell the police if the girl didn't get what she wanted. No angels on either side here.

Being a huge bitch is totally just like stealing a priceless painting to pay for the girl you knocked up's abortion to cover your ass. Rolling Eyes
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I tend to think 16 is a pretty safe age. People mature at different rates, but 14 is a bit young. But regardless of legality, I have to seriously question the decision of an adult to sleep with a young teen, even a mature one.

And even if this girl consented, I still sympathize with her. She's 14, and he's a thief trying to whisk her off to Mexico for an abortion.
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Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.
Oh Vandy, she'll never get it; you've been far too subtle there.

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Verandering wrote:
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Melissa wrote:
Also, is this rape rape or just statutory?

The age of consent in the Netherlands is 16. This should say something. We're liberal enough to have legal soft drugs, legal prostitution, and gay marriage.
Oh Vandy, she'll never get it; you've been far too subtle there.

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I tend to think 16 is a pretty safe age. People mature at different rates, but 14 is a bit young. But regardless of legality, I have to seriously question the decision of an adult to sleep with a young teen, even a mature one.

And even if this girl consented, I still sympathize with her. She's 14, and he's a thief trying to whisk her off to Mexico for an abortion.

It turns out that the age of sexual consent in Nebraska is 17, according to a quick scan on the article dealing with this topic in Wikipedia, so he's effectively committed the offence of Statutory Rape on the girl, if it's consentual, Rape if not, & his attempt to get her to cross the border into Mexico, probably violates Federal Law (the Mann Act ?) regarding the transportation of minors across state lines for "immoral purposes"...
As a result, I suspect that he will be staying a very, very long time (up to 70 years) in a Nebraskan jail....
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DeeDee wrote:
I tend to think 16 is a pretty safe age. People mature at different rates, but 14 is a bit young. But regardless of legality, I have to seriously question the decision of an adult to sleep with a young teen, even a mature one.

And even if this girl consented, I still sympathize with her. She's 14, and he's a thief trying to whisk her off to Mexico for an abortion.

It turns out that the age of sexual consent in Nebraska is 17, according to a quick scan on the article dealing with this topic in Wikipedia, so he's effectively committed the offence of Statutory Rape on the girl, if it's consentual, Rape if not, & his attempt to get her to cross the border into Mexico, probably violates Federal Law (the Mann Act ?) regarding the transportation of minors across state lines for "immoral purposes"...
As a result, I suspect that he will be staying a very, very long time (up to 70 years) in a Nebraskan jail....

(Insert joke about him having to deal with a completely different kind of "Mann Act" in jail here)
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