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PostSubject: Re: Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed   Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 3:12 pm

Lysander wrote:
gaijinguy wrote:
And it is, of course, the role of enlightened individuals such as yourself to determine which those are, and which issues you'll deign to give the ignorant, unwashed masses a say in.

Popular sovereignty brought about Jim Crow laws. It did not overturn them. That was done by judicial and legislative rulings.

Pop quiz: Who made "separate but equal" the law of the land?

A) Abraham Lincoln
B) Frederick Douglass
C) The KKK
D) The Supreme Court

Get off your knees and out from under the judges' bench, kthxbai
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Who made "separate but equal" the law of the land?

Currently? Well, that would be the people voting against gay marriage and the Republican party.

Voting to take away the rights of others is a perversion of democracy and all this country is supposed to stand for (but doesn't, because of people like the ones who voted in this election), and I think I'll stand with the people who seem to recognize this, rather than support unjust laws simply because they are laws.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed   Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 6:34 pm

I'm in favor of abolishing all legal marriage, as that seems to be the trouble. Let anybody who wants to get a civil union and leave "marriage" as a religious matter. Nobody has a leg to stand on, then.

Not that they do now, and not that the lack stops them, but still...
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed   Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 7:03 pm

Well, you can still get married in Iowa if you're gay. Furthermore, the group that caused all the trouble in California and Maine (which is based out of Utah and consists mostly of Mormons), have discovered their usual tactics don't work around here. Iowa tends to not like strangers coming in from outside and trying to tell us what we should and shouldn't do, so they're attempts to get the matter put up for a vote by the people has backfired on them.

Plus, we're a reasonably laid back state. Even people who DON'T approve of gay marriage are inclined to consider it none of their business what other people do with their lives. You've got your usual contingent of religious loons screaming damnation, but by and large, nobody really pays any attention to them, mostly because they tend to show up whenever ANYTHING they consider to be 'ungodly' comes up for vote. If they had their way, divorce would be illegal, as would abortion, and any woman who had a child out of wedlock would be stoned.
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I'm in favor of abolishing all legal marriage, as that seems to be the trouble. Let anybody who wants to get a civil union and leave "marriage" as a religious matter.

Why have we not done this yet?
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1. There's a gazillion laws that explicitly refer to marriage that would need to be revised.

2. Conservatives wouldn't stand for it. Think they're wailing about attacks on the sanctity of marriage NOW? Oh, just you wait.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed   Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 9:00 pm

Last year, when stupid Prop. 8 passed here in California, I got into an argument about it with some conservative members of my union. Their argument? God is going to punish America for allowing gay marriage. I asked why God hadn't punished Canada. The response? Canada doesn't really have gay marriage. That's just a lie made up by liberals. At this point, a student who was listening in responded that Canada did too have gay marriage, and her dads got married there. This was met with shocked looks and dead silence by the homophobes.

On the subject of human rights being put to a popular vote:

No. Absolutely not. The majority does not need to impose their bigotry on the minority. We need equal rights for all. No exceptions.
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Miss Prince wrote:
1. There's a gazillion laws that explicitly refer to marriage that would need to be revised.

2. Conservatives wouldn't stand for it. Think they're wailing about attacks on the sanctity of marriage NOW? Oh, just you wait.

Completely correct on both counts. I still think we should work toward it though.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed   Maine Gay Marriage Law Repealed - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 9:17 pm

Gaijinguy speaks out
of his ass once more. Let a simply search at Wikipedia enlighten us all:

Quote :
Legal formalism can be contrasted to legal instrumentalism,
a view associated with American legal realism. Instrumentalism is usually the view
that creativity in the interpretation of legal texts is justified in order
to assure that the law serves good public policy and social interests, although
legal instrumentalists could also see the end of law as the promotion of
justice or the protection of human rights
. Legal formalists counter that
giving judges authority to change the law to serve their own ideas about good
policy undermines the rule of law.
This tension is especially interesting
in Common Law traditions, i.e. those that, like the English,
US, Indian or Israeli systems, depend on judicial precedent to determine the
law. The "claim to fame" of Common Law systems is that the task of
developing and updating law is best done incrementally by courts that keep in
close touch with social, economic, and technological realities than by
political organs that, every so often, will attend to legal reforms. Thus legal
realism or "relationalism" has been favored in some common law
jurisdictions, where the kind of legal codification associated with continental (and Japanese) law are virtually unknown.

*puts on robes and wizard hat* And now, I present to your consideration the
following essay:

"TL;DR: A Brief History on the Common Law System and why Gaijinguy doesn't
know fuck all about it"


AHEM!

PART ONE: IN WHICH COMMON LAW IS EXPLAINED TO THE SLOW KIDS IN THE BACK

Judges changing law is not a bug, but a feature in the common law system. It
must be doing something right, because it has been working since 10th century England.

Anyway, a bulk of law-making has to be done from the bench in part because
there are no proper codifications like in a civil law system. All the USA is case
law, several Constitutions, random statuary laws and custom to work with. The
only codifications available are Penal Codes, but they're not really 'required'
to have. The federal Constitution doesn't mention that the laws need to be
'written down' somewhere for them to work. It covers its ass just fine by
'protecting individual liberty' and 'fair warning'.

Crimes like 'stealing' weren't created by law or democracy, it was a crime
created in England in ye goode olde days by judges, because there were no such things as Legislature
and democracy to begin with. Later, if the Parliament / legislature didn't like
it, they created laws to alter or create new crimes. The system was kept in
place after the 13 colonies went solo because it worked just fine. Any
potential danger was mitigated with the Constitution, again, because it covers
its ass just fine by 'protecting individual liberty' and 'fair warning'.


PART TWO: LIONS AND BEARS AND GAY MARRIAGE, OH MY!

So there are a bunch of laws out there, some for, some against gay marriage. California, for example, banned it in its Constitution, Maine struck it down. Supposedly, it was the will of the people. BUT!

The Federal Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. It trumps over any
local Constitution or law. As previously mentioned, it covers democracy’s ass
just fine by 'protecting individual liberty' and other liberties.

Because of the quirks of the common law and case law, ("the task of
developing and updating law is best done incrementally by courts that keep in
close touch with social, economic, and technological realities than by
political organs that, every so often, will attend to legal reforms")
these judges are perfectly free to make those interpretations. So according to
the times and judges, these liberties can be interpreted freely or
restrictively, and that interpretation is law.

In other words, Christian bigots can bitch and whine all they want, but if a
federal case gets up there and rules in favor of gay marriage, laws and bans
won't really matter in the end, because the federal Constitution and its
corresponding interpretation will always override local rules.

But the same is true in reverse. Right now, taking a case to the federal sphere
is a poor strategy for gay rights activists, because of the composition of the
court. That's why it’s better to start in a local level; if enough states
approve gay marriage, it will show the judges that the people want it and
probably rule in favor for it.

But again, thanks to the common law system, judges can rule in favor for it
right now and it will still be equally valid. It’s a matter of degree; you can
take your medicine by mouth or up your ass, but you WILL have the medicine
sooner or later.

(By the way, the civil rights movement was 'up-the-ass' all the way, much to
the butthurt of racists everywhere. Much wangsting ensured, but it was for the
best.)

(Up the ass! Hurhur!)


PART THREE: HOW CIVIL LAW JURISDICTIONS WOULD DO IT
Depending on the country and the wording of their Constitutions, they are free
to bitchslap just as well as American Justices.

But more things would be left up to the legislature. Why? Because most European countries don't have
common law. Why? Because the countries achieved political cohesion rather late
in the game. As hinted previously, England had its shit together by
the 10th century, with a king and an organized kingdom (although not as we know
it.)

Contrast it with Germany (unification in the 19th century), France (shitton of wars through the ages), Spain (unification in the 1500s, but an ex-Roman colony existing with an uneasy peace with moors until then).

Unlike England,these countries codified their laws in an effort to unify themselves. In other
words, the laws gave them unity; while in England, there was unity first, then
law. The used Roman, that is, civil law as models.

Those countries don't have common law because common law means a long history of tradition - those
countries haven't been together that long to create such tradition. Incidentally,
USA is also a newcomer (1776), that's why it doesn't have federal common law crimes (but do
have them on state levels, being England rebel child and all.)

Since laws in civil law countries were an artifact to create a national
identity, and not the other way around like in England, its judges are kept on a
shorter leash. The Civil Codes were created to help form that identity and
create a country out of fiefdoms, basically. To update them, the Legislature hires
university professors, best of the fields and let them write it. Judges, in
turn, read the essays by those professors and interpret the civil code maxims
according to their advice. Academics take up the bulk of developing law.

So how would they tackle gay marriage? The Legislature would create update the
Code or, if feeling lazy, create a Special Law to override that particular
article in the code, but still within the limits of their Constitution, if any.
(If it’s a country with a Constitution that has some sort of liberty stuff
built-in, it can also declare the old article unconstitutional, and it will be
equally valid. Not unlike an American Supreme Court bitchslap.)

CONCLUSION: TL;DR
Common law judges make laws since time immemorial, because of England’s
unique historical history that the USA inherited. Civil law judges
rely on the Civil Code, because of historical reasons, which include creating a
national consciousness out of random parts.

Also, Gaijinguy is a poo-poo head.
I HAVE SPOKEN!
*bangs gravel*


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Sloth wrote:
myeerah wrote:
I'm in favor of abolishing all legal marriage, as that seems to be the trouble. Let anybody who wants to get a civil union and leave "marriage" as a religious matter.

Why have we not done this yet?

What's bothering me is the language both sides are using in trying to get this thing passed. They're all tossing around "marriage", as if the sanctity of their churches are at stake when in reality it's only a marriage in terms of being able to have the same legal benefits- it's done by the state therefore it's just a civil union to collect benefits that married couples by the state can receive. And these same people who are for the separation of church and state in their own matters are so quick to lump civil unions in with marriage and scream bloody murder when they fail to understand that separation of church and state applies not only to what they stand for, but what others stand for as well.
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I complete approve getting rid of marriage in favor of civil unions for all. Marriage as we know it has outlived its usefulness.
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Maybe we'd have better outcomes if it was phrased as "same-sex civil unions".

By the way, same-sex couples are free to go before a clergyperson and speak their vows, but unless the marriage is within the confines of the law, it doesn't mean jackshit.
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We're not gonna have to go through the separate-is-not-equal speech again, are we guys? I would certainly approve of all civil marriages being re-coined civil unions -- because that's really what they are. But as long as "marriage" is the word used in the law, and as long as people cling to the word "marriage" as part of the law, that is what the gay community must strive for. Because whether it is called marriage or it isn't, it should be the same for EVERYONE. And yes, the name is important.
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Miss Prince wrote:
We're not gonna have to go through the separate-is-not-equal speech again, are we guys? I would certainly approve of all civil marriages being re-coined civil unions -- because that's really what they are. But as long as "marriage" is the word used in the law, and as long as people cling to the word "marriage" as part of the law, that is what the gay community must strive for. Because whether it is called marriage or it isn't, it should be the same for EVERYONE. And yes, the name is important.

Granted. But could not 'civil unions' for gay couples be the first step in phasing out marriage as a legal entity?

Like you said, if we just threw it out there it would never happen. So couldn't we try taking it one step at a time?
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I don't see it as a step that helps at all. It lets bigoted heterosexual couples to feel secure in that they have a "real marriage" while same-sex couples have something that is lesser (even if it ostensibly affords all the same legal rights).

What I mean is, giving civil unions to the gay community doesn't do anything to encourage the marriages of straight couples to be re-termed civil unions. AND the bonus danger is that, while separate is not equal, if the gay community gains civil unions but not marriage, momentum peters out and there's not enough drive left to make the change in terminology. So if straight marriages are not re-termed civil unions, which seems likely, we've dug ourselves into a rut.

I really, really think that trying to get all civil marriages changed to civil unions would cause a much bigger shitstorm than the direction we're currently going.
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... At this point, a student who was listening in responded that Canada did too have gay marriage, and her dads got married there. This was met with shocked looks and dead silence by the homophobes.
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Lapin wrote:
Remember those BS ads that were used in California, with a "doctor" whining about having to...I'm not quite sure what their complaint was, but it had something to do with gay marriage being EVUL!, and the rest of their like? They used them in Maine.

I think I read somewhere that the campaign organizers were the same for both Maine and California. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, really.

Lady Anne wrote:
By the way, same-sex couples are free to go before a clergyperson and
speak their vows, but unless the marriage is within the confines of the
law, it doesn't mean jackshit.

Exactly. It's a nice ceremony, but in the eyes of the law, it's absolutely nothing.

Although the Episcopal Church did vote this past summer to start working on the necessary liturgy for same-sex marriages. Give it a few years and at least there will be an approved service... that still won't mean anything in the eyes of the law in some states. Hopefully by then there will have been some progress.
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At this point, a student who was listening in responded that Canada did too have gay marriage, and her dads got married there. This was met with shocked looks and dead silence by the homophobes.
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lemmingwriter wrote:
Lapin wrote:
Remember those BS ads that were used in California, with a "doctor" whining about having to...I'm not quite sure what their complaint was, but it had something to do with gay marriage being EVUL!, and the rest of their like? They used them in Maine.

I think I read somewhere that the campaign organizers were the same for both Maine and California. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, really.

Lady Anne wrote:
By the way, same-sex couples are free to go before a clergyperson and
speak their vows, but unless the marriage is within the confines of the
law, it doesn't mean jackshit.

Exactly. It's a nice ceremony, but in the eyes of the law, it's absolutely nothing.

Although the Episcopal Church did vote this past summer to start working on the necessary liturgy for same-sex marriages. Give it a few years and at least there will be an approved service... that still won't mean anything in the eyes of the law in some states. Hopefully by then there will have been some progress.
My sister is a UCC minister who has married same-sex couples. This was done during the time that same-sex marriage was legal in California. I don't know if she'd perform the ceremony now that it would not be part of a legal marriage, but I do know that some ministers will. There was a marriage announcement recently in the regional paper that two men originally from the area got married in San Francisco and plan to live in Las Vegas. There was a lot of butthurting from the homophobes in the editorial pages after that announcement ran, but the paper's policy is to run any marriage announcement they're paid to run.

On the issue of separate but equal: separate is never equal. History has shown that again and again. I support making the legal term for marriage civil union (opposite sex or same sex), with all the legal rights and responsibilities that implies. Call it civil union, call it marriage, call it ooga-booga--just make it equal for all.
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"Elizabeth- will you ooga-booga me?"


...dunno, doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Marriage as we know it has outlived its usefulness.

Explanation, I demands it.
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"Elizabeth- will you ooga-booga me?"

Is it just me, or does that sound a little [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] ?

"Elizabeth, will you giggety-giggety?"
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unskilled78 wrote:
Ceres wrote:
Marriage as we know it has outlived its usefulness.

Explanation, I demands it.

We don't really need marriage anymore. What's to explain?
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This reminds me of a letter I read in Ms. magazine once that said that same sex marriage should be banned because having the same sex all the time was boring.

Yes, the letter was firmly tongue-in-cheek. Yes, I loled at it.
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