"Sex as Nature Intended It": Dancing with swooning, sighing sex organs. NWS

Note: The site linked contains GRAPHIC descriptions and images of sex. Be warned that nothing about this is WS.

"Sex as Nature Intended It"

First, let me say that I have nothing against foreskin restoration. If it makes a guy and his partner happy, more power to them. But this site's author, Kristen O'Hara, makes some claims about the penis, both circumcised and uncircumcised, that I, even being a virgin, have some doubts about, since she asserts that circumcision is responsible for everything from women not orgasming during intercourse to American divorce rates.

Let's start at the beginning with some story-time, shall we? It's an, ahem, erotic story....

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The first time I ever had sex was when I was a teenager. It wasn’t anything special at all, but it was memorable because it points up the differences between "circumcised" and "natural" intercourse.

It was during the summer, and I was spending most of my time at the beach. Every day I would sit out in the sun in my bikini, and every day this boy would sit down next to me doing the same. One day he asked me if it would be okay to remove his pants and get some sun in "that" area. I didn’t see anything wrong with it, so I agreed. Upon removing his pants, he showed me what was to become my first exposure to a circumcised penis. From my memory, the head was very clearly delineated from the shaft, almost like it was manicured or something.

Or... something.

From The Free Dictionary, "manicured" is defined as

"n. A cosmetic treatment of the fingernails, including shaping and polishing.

tr.v. man·i·cured, man·i·cur·ing, man·i·cures

1. To trim, clean, and polish (the fingernails).

2. To clip or trim evenly and closely: manicure a hedge."

Granted, perhaps the last meaning is what she meant, but it still gives an unpleasant image of a penis with fingernail polish... or one that's being snipped on by a guy with garden shears.

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He began to masturbate in front of me. I was horrified at first but very curious. He then said I could touch it, and I did. It seemed very coarse. He asked me if I had ever had sex. I said, "No, but I might be interested in trying it."

Without any hesitation, he ripped off my bikini and literally jumped my bones. Ramming me harder and harder, I felt like I was being pummeled with a jackhammer and at times, as if sandpaper was attached. After he came off, I laid there feeling almost dead, feeling severely violated. It took me a while to recover.

Okay. That wasn't "circumcised sex". It was RAPE. There's a difference.

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A year later, I experienced sex with a natural boy. I can remember quite fondly the entire experience. I was spending the summer at a country farm. Every day we would get up early, milk the cows, feed the chickens, clean the house, and after a hard day’s work, we all used to go skinny-dipping in a nearby lake. One day, when the other kids had gone home, I was sitting with a boy and we were talking for a while. He kissed me and began running his hands gently over my body. I returned the favor. The moment I felt his cock a smile came over my face. The skin moved up and down in perfect rhythm over the head and it was pleasantly soft. The conversation turned to sex and I was becoming very aroused. Then, in a very relaxed tone, he asked me if I would like to be the one on top. I accepted and lowered myself onto him. Moving my hips in rhythm, my face became flushed and all of a sudden this earth-shattering feeling overtook me. I came! The boy beneath me still hadn’t come, so I kept going, and almost twenty minutes later I was coming again and again until finally we came as one. It was the best experience of my life, and probably his as well.

Maybe that's because it wasn't rape, but rather sex complete with foreplay?

Anyway here's a message to women with circ'd partners, to wit, that if your husband or boyfriend doesn't restore his foreskin, sex with him is likely gonna suck, and not in the good way.

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The following "joke" may help to underscore the difference a natural penis can make to a woman:

What does the French woman say after making love? "Oo La La!"
What does the Italian woman say? "Mama Mia !"
What does the American woman say? "Jim, the ceiling needs painting."

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Until you've had sex with a whole, fully functioning, softly-stiff natural penis, you haven't really had sex. You only think you have. In actuality, you've only had circumcised sex. As a woman who's experienced both types of sex, allow me to say the words women will later come to speak for themselves: Sex with a circumcised penis and sex with a natural penis are as different as night and day. They are as different as viewing the harsh, blinding light of the sun at noon vs. the softer, reflected light of the romantic midnight moon.

Okay... on to "Top 10 Ways Circumcised Sex Harms Women", part one... in which we are introduced to the coronal ridge hook that circumcised men stab deep into unsuspecting womens' tender, quivering vagoos:

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On the erect penis, the head flares out from the shaft like a barb or hook.

YOUR HARPOONS, MEN! MAN THEM!

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On the circumcised penis, this hook is overly firm and constantly exposed, and on every outward stroke, it scrapes vaginal walls, causing irritation, redness, discomfort
(even pain).

On the natural penis, the soft, flexible foreskin cushions the coronal-ridge hook and prevents it from scraping the vaginal walls, giving only pleasure, not soreness.

The next part examines how the circ'd dick bails out the vagina's moisture like a pump:

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On the circumcised penis, the flared-out Coronal Ridge Hook is constantly exposed, and on every outward stroke, it draws lubricating fluids out of the vagina, which is one of the reasons why, as circumcised sex progresses, vaginal lubrication tends to dry up.

Wouldn't vaginal lubrication be still being produced with the downward stroke, though?

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Circumcised penis head & shaft are abnormally hard when erect because too much swollen tissue is packed into too small a packaging of skin. Circumcision removes 1/3 to 1/2 of the penis's shaft skin. Upon erection, the shaft skin is forced to stretch tightly thin in order to accommodate the fullness of the erection. Like blowing up a balloon, as more air is forced in, the balloon gets stretched thinner & thinner, and becomes tighter and firmer. The tight skin —overly firm — circumcised penis feels to the woman like a "broomstick," quite different from the cushiony shaft & head of the natural penis.

What about dildos, many of which are made out of very firm, rigid materials -- plastic, wood, and glass -- and are far more 'hard' and 'broomstick'-like than any penis could ever be?

...Women can't possibly enjoy those things, can they? What the hell do they do with them? Paperweights? Decorative art pieces?

Also... she mentions that the skin is "forced to stretch tightly" to accomodate the erection. Though this IS a problem for a guy when the circumcision is too 'tight' and he's starting to get erections, wouldn't enough erections over time stretch the skin and loosen it up so it wouldn't be "like a broomstick"?

And, not all circumcisions are the same and take the same amount of skin away, author. At least acknowledge this fact.

Continued in part two...

Anyway, in part six we learn how "circumcised" sex is rougher and "natural" sex is gentler:

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Circumcised sex is adrenalized sex —tense, forceful, muscular, rough and tough, and aggressive. It's pumped with tension. And often, hard, pounding, bang-away thrusts are used.

In her multi-million-selling book, How to Satisfy a Woman Every Time, Naura Hayden refers to it as "The Big Bang "and she describes it this way:

He got her excited with foreplay. She’s burning up with desire. But
as soon as he enters her and starts pumping away, she’s turned
off. That wonderful, excited feeling, that glow all over her body, that tingling in her sex organs, vanishes. Why?

Because he’s doing The BIG BANG. In and out, in and out —Bang Bang.

BANG BANG!



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The woman, not knowing what he’s doing wrong (but absolutely knowing it’s all wrong!), pretends finally to have an orgasm because she knows that the way he’s doing it she’ll never have one, and she wants to get it over with to end the boredom and/ or pain.

She’s left feeling very frustrated, unhappy, and unsatisfied.

Never dreaming it could possibly be the man’s ineptness [more
precisely, his circumcised penis], these women are left thinking that maybe there's something wrong with them, that they don't like sex.

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The circ penis thrusts differently from the natural penis. (This fact
is corroborated in thousands of adult videos made over the last 20
years.)

Circumcised penis prefers strong, forceful pressing-pressure against its lower shaft & base/ pubic mound area.

Whereas, natural sex is, according to O'Hara,

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Natural sex is relaxing; much less physical exertion is required; much less stressful tension is created.

There are many reasons why the presence of a foreskin causes the woman to perceive natural intercourse as a gentler, love -making experience. All are explained in the book, Sex As Nature Intended It. Below are the Top 4 Reasons:

Why Natural Intercourse is Gentler?

Reason #1: The foreskin is delicate tissue. It abounds with
specialized nerve endings that are equivalent in sensitivity to the lips. Thus, it favors gentler intercourse movements.

Reason #2: The frenulum on the natural penis curbs
hard, forceful, pounding thrusts.

Reason #3: The natural penis derives its pleasure primarily from the upper penis. Upper penis pleasure nerves are so exquisitely sensitive, they only need easy motions to excite them. And because the upper penis area generates such a high level
of pleasure, the natural penis doesn't need to bear down hard on its thrusts, nor bang its base area against the vaginal opening to elicit pleasure, the way the circumcised penis does.

Also, the natural penis upper area nerves derive high levels of
pleasure on both the inward thrust & the outward stroke. So the
natural penis doesn't have to travel very far, back and forth in the
vagina, to maintain a consistent flow of pleasurable sensations to the brain.

Reason #4 Natural penis thrusts gentler because it uses shorter
strokes. Short strokes require less muscle force.

Natural penis thrusts with a gentler rocking motion.

Circumcised penis, instead, thrusts with long strokes that are intent
on stimulating nerves of the lower penis that respond to hard, forceful pressuring.

Circ penis thrusts with a hips- jerked- forward power thrust

Notice the recoil in the man's lower buttock from the force of his thrust.

BUTT JIGGLE!

Circ'ed guys, can you verify/disprove the claim that circumcised penises prefer pressure against their bases? Given that I don't have a dick, I wouldn't know.

In parts 7 and 8, the claims are made that the circ'd penis'
thrusting rhythm and style are out of sync with the pressure and
stimulation needed to make a woman orgasm during intercourse, so that

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...the pace and the woman's ascent to orgasm is frequently
broken because the circ penis thrusts with an unnatural, elongated
stroke and an inconsistent, irregular rhythm, which put the man’s and woman’s movements out of sync with one another.

Circumcised penis thrusts at the wrong rhythm, at an inconsistent
rhythm, and the women suffer the disappointment, displeasure, and degradation of incomplete, unrewarding intercourse.

Ummm, what about the woman having an orgasm before sexual intercourse?

Anyway, all this dire talk leads our horrific survey of broom-dicks and tenderized vagoos to parts 9 and 10, in which we learn that the circ'd penis is possibly responsible for tension between couples, arguments, separation, and divorce! GASP! WHAT ELSE IS THE CIRCUMCISED PENIS RESPONSIBLE FOR?? WHEN WILL ITS VILLAINY END? WHERE WILL IT STRIKE NEXT?

WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM, CIRCUMCISED PENIS?

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Few people realize that the sex act is designed by nature to
create love between the couple. Nature intended it to bond the couple together (love bond) so they will stay together and rear the child during its dependent years.

In effect, then, the sex organs are actually the generators of love because they create feelings of love in the brain.

... I am so calling my future husband's dick the "Love Generator".

Also, a couple who is NOT in love can have very pleasurable sex, and not be in love with each other at the end of the encounter, and a couple who IS in love can have mediocre, poor, or NO sex with each other, depending on the circumstances. Just sayin'.

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However, because the circumcised penis is an unnatural sex organ, it astoundingly abnormalizes the sex act, which, in turn, abnormalizes the feelings of love for one's sex partner. Over time, the relationship will become deficient in sexual love, as the frustration, discomfort, and shortcomings of circumcised sex drive a wedge through the heart of the relationship. Without sexual love in the marriage, the couple might just as well be roommates.

The dissatisfactions of incomplete, unrewarding circumcised
sex decrease the woman's desire for sexual intimacy, so gradually the couple has sex less and less often, further decreasing the love bond between them. (Infrequent sex has a detrimental effect on the love bond.)

So, what about the couple who CAN'T have sex for a while, for whatever reason? Do they really love each other less, or is O'Hara just pulling this opinion from thin air?

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The partners of a circumcised relationship enter marriage with the enthusiastic optimism of youth, thinking that everything will be a bed of roses. But sadly, the bed of roses has a thorn —the coronal ridge hook.

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FACT: In the United States, 1 out of 2 marriages ends in
divorce. United States divorce rate is double that of European
countries where men are not usually circumcised.

O
RLY?

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However, because circumcised sex has so many potentially negative effects on sexual relations, and inasmuch as sexual fulfillment is an important aspect of marital happiness, doesn't it make sense that the harm caused by circumcised sex could be a significant contributing factor to America's high divorce statistics.

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The ecstasy of delicious natural sex is the foundation upon which an intimate couple builds a mutual sexual admiration for each other. The wonderful sex they experience promotes the development of deep biochemical “love roots,” from which blossoms a mutual love bond that may, in many instances, last a lifetime.

But when vital sexual tissue is stripped from the penis, causing it to feel and function completely abnormally, this can cause the sex act to lose its magical appeal—especially for the woman.

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The ecstasy of delicious natural sex is the foundation upon which an intimate couple builds a mutual sexual admiration for each other. Natural lovemaking is completely different from circumcised sex. It's a gentler interminging, a tender blending —an enrapturement oozing with sensuousness —with both partners swooning in ecstatic surrender to the passionate, graceful dance of the sex organs. And these feelings create feelings of love for your partner. A love that is strengthened with each sexual encounter.

Oozing, dancing sex organs?

Your Indian name shall be... Dances with Sex Organs.

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With natural lovemaking, the vagina totally surrenders to the soft sensuousness of lingering ecstasy, as it hungrily caresses and lovingly responds to the erotic movements of the softly-stiff penis, and the penis adores and gently strokes the vagina in return. Like two halves of a perfect whole, each organ swoons and sighs to a passionate sexual connectedness —the way it was meant to be.

Oh great, now the sex organs are acting like actresses in a bad silent movie.

Also, ffs, that shit sounded like it came from a romance novel.

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With no holding back, lost in voluptuous abandon, you TOTALLY want it, you TOTALLY need it, and you TOTALLY love it.

Okay... that reads like the tag-line of a commercial, and I feel like
someone is trying to sell me something. :suspect: My Bullshit Detector
is tingling.

No matter how hard they wave the "reclaiming what was taken from me" flag, no matter how much they flaunt the "psychological trauma" of being cut... it all comes down to "If I do X, I'll have better sex".:sperm:

Sometimes my gender embarrasses me.

Freezer wrote:

No matter how hard they wave the "reclaiming what was taken from me" flag, no matter how much they flaunt the "psychological trauma" of being cut... it all comes down to "If I do X, I'll have better sex".:sperm:

Sometimes my gender embarrasses me.

In defence of your gender, that site was made by a woman. "If men do X, I'll have better sex". Not sure if that makes it any better.

That makes it worse: "Do this painful, possibly harmful thing so I'll have an extra couple millimeters of bumpy bits to play with. And I suppose you'll enjoy it too."

Do people actually believe this lady?

Maybe if she actually put in some effort, her husband wouldn't have to rough it up so much to get some feeling.

theweirdkind wrote:

Do people actually believe this lady?

Apparently, yes.

Also, be sure to read the "Women's Comments" on each of the "10 Ways" sections.

Freezer wrote:

That makes it worse: "Do this painful, possibly
harmful thing so I'll have an extra couple millimeters of bumpy bits to play with. And I suppose you'll enjoy it too."

I dunno, all the testimonials I've read from men who did do non-surgical foreskin restorations are pretty positive. It's not an over-night thing -- it takes years. I'd doubt it's really all that painful unless the pulling is too strong, too fast.

I'd be interested in knowing if there are any guys who did foreskin restoration and are either 'meh' or unhappy with the results, as there are men who have circumcisions performed in adulthood and aren't unhappy.

I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I do kind of fail to see how the vagina could be dried out by the circumcised penis if the vag has enough natural lubricant of its own, since lube is produced by physical stimulation, and I honestly don't think that any 'bumpiness' produced by the coronal ridge would feel bad... on the contrary, I would think it would feel good, kind of similar to ridges or bumps on condoms, or genital beading. Also, maybe larger labia minora (with their larger surface area for vaginal mucose membranes) would be good for longer strokes of the penis?

Malganis wrote:

Also, maybe larger labia minora (with their larger surface area for vaginal mucose membranes) would be good for longer strokes of the penis?

There are women who do stretching of the labia minora to enhance sexual pleasure. Basically they tug firmly, but gently on them daily.


I've been with men with who weren't circumcised. I've been with men who are. I noticed no difference at all.

rae wrote:

Malganis wrote:

Also, maybe larger labia minora (with their larger surface area for vaginal mucose membranes) would be good for longer strokes of the penis?

There are women who do stretching of the labia minora to enhance sexual pleasure. Basically they tug firmly, but gently on them daily.

Yup, that's what non-surgical foreskin restoration basically is.

Woman with bad partners wrote:

The circ penis thrusts differently from the natural penis. (This fact
is corroborated in thousands of adult videos made over the last 20
years.)

How on earth do you get funding to do a study like that?

Malganis wrote:

I do kind of fail to see how the vagina could be dried out by the circumcised penis if the vag has enough natural lubricant of its own,

DON'T YOU KNOW IT THE PENIS IS LIKE A SPONGE

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since lube is produced by physical stimulation, and I honestly don't think that any 'bumpiness' produced by the coronal ridge would feel bad... on the contrary, I would think it would feel good, kind of similar to ridges or bumps on condoms, or genital beading.

I don't feel it. Alright? I can't feel THE DREADED HOOK. I don't know if this woman has never looked at her partner during sex, but the foreskin pulls back. The "ridge" is exposed during sex, circumcision or no. And it's not that noticeable.

Zoe wrote:

Woman with bad partners wrote:

The circ penis thrusts differently from the natural penis. (This fact
is corroborated in thousands of adult videos made over the last 20 years.)

How on earth do you get funding to do a study like that?

I guess what she's trying to tell us is that she's watched a lot of porn.

I wonder if this woman masturbates "as nature intended", without all those fancy, space-age polymers, plastics, or silicone...

unskilled78 wrote:

I wonder if this woman masturbates "as nature intended", without all those fancy, space-age polymers, plastics, or silicone...

Uh, darling, female masturbation without all these is quite possible and, in fact, preferred by many.

Saleha wrote:

unskilled78 wrote:

I wonder if this woman masturbates "as nature intended", without all those fancy, space-age polymers, plastics, or silicone...

Uh, darling, female masturbation without all these is quite possible and, in fact, preferred by many.

eh, I can get where he's coming from - I get absolutely no enjoyment from manual stimulation. If I don't have a toy, I fail at masturbation. I think it's personal preference, but I can see where unskilled would get the impression that it's uncommon not to use toys.

grmblfjx wrote:

Zoe wrote:

Woman with bad partners wrote:

The circ penis thrusts differently from the natural penis. (This fact
is corroborated in thousands of adult videos made over the last 20 years.)

How on earth do you get funding to do a study like that?

I guess what she's trying to tell us is that she's watched a lot of porn.

With a micrometer and motion study dots, no doubt.