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+11Dr. Quinzel ZoZo Azzandra Verandering Malganis TheHedonist EileenK98 Bamshalam Lapin Sheba OzymandiasBowie 15 posters |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| Basically, the Colorado prison system has extended body cavity searches to include the pulling up and examining of the clitoral fold. Prior to the labia lift, the basic search was this: - Quote :
- The "proper" search (before the labia lift came about) is as follows: Remove all clothes, as an officer searches the seams/pockets/waistband and stand completely naked. Open the mouth; sweep fingers around tongue and along gum line. Fold forward ears while turning the head to expose behind them. Run fingers through hair, removing any ties or combs and if needed, bend over to shake long hair. Lift arms and if breasts are large, lift breasts. Turn around; lift each foot, wiggling toes. Turn your back to the officer, bend over, squat, and grab buttocks while coughing.
And here's the piece de resistance: - Quote :
- The addition of the "labia lift" is to stand or sit, facing the officer, while spreading the labia open wide.
Emphasis mine. Source The ACLU is calling on Colorado to end labia lifts, due to the possible psychological damage the process may cause to sexually or physically abused women. Personally, I fail to see the benefits of searching the clitoral hoods of female prisoners. You can't hide anything there, it's just too small. - Quote :
- "The new search is in addition to the intrusive searches that prisoners already endure at DWCF," the letter states. "It is virtually inconceivable that the new requirement that prisoners hold open their labia contributes anything to prison security."
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Sheba Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:42 pm | |
| Well now, I think this answers the question: HUH?!? Seriously, what purpose does this serve? Are they expecting female inmates to sneak in, I dunno, fold-up needles under their clits or what? ...Unless they're like, checking for signs of herpes or something, but then again there's blood tests for that.... | |
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Lapin Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 35 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:32 pm | |
| They're checking for drug stashes. No stash is too small to get you some leeway with people in prison, or a user themselves will hide it. I'm not sure it's conceivable to hide any stash whatsoever in such a small space though. Maybe one pill or a tiny bit of powder, but I'm pretty sure anything hidden would be dislodged by the normal procedure.
If I recall correctly, the UK actually has a female guard do a full body cavity search upon entry into a prison. | |
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Bamshalam Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:54 pm | |
| - Lapin wrote:
- If I recall correctly, the UK actually has a female guard do a full body cavity search upon entry into a prison.
How in the world does that make a damn bit of difference. | |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:07 pm | |
| - Lapin wrote:
- They're checking for drug stashes. No stash is too small to get you some leeway with people in prison, or a user themselves will hide it. I'm not sure it's conceivable to hide any stash whatsoever in such a small space though. Maybe one pill or a tiny bit of powder, but I'm pretty sure anything hidden would be dislodged by the normal procedure.
I agree, it's highly unlikely that any drugs hidden under the clitoral hood would be either A) usable or B) unable to remain hidden during a normal cavity search. I feel that Labia Lifts are about shaming women inmates more than insuring the safety of the prison facility. - Bamshalam wrote:
- How in the world does that make a damn bit of difference.
It bloody well doesn't. | |
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Lapin Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 35 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:04 am | |
| - Bamshalam wrote:
- Lapin wrote:
- If I recall correctly, the UK actually has a female guard do a full body cavity search upon entry into a prison.
How in the world does that make a damn bit of difference. Hm? It doesn't. It's just an actual touching search instead of our display one. It's pretty much the same search. I think I was just thinking out loud when I added that comment, so to speak, not making a point. | |
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EileenK98 Recovering Fanbrat
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 55 Location : very, very close to Chris
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:33 pm | |
| I read the title of this thread and was expecting it to be about intimate plastic surgery on inmates.
Oh, come on, I can't have been the only one! | |
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TheHedonist Armbiter of Good Fanfiction
Join date : 2009-10-26 Location : Госпоже Правой Ноге Аниной
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:18 pm | |
| - EileenK98 wrote:
- I read the title of this thread and was expecting it to be about intimate plastic surgery on inmates.
Oh, come on, I can't have been the only one! You weren't. I was expecting FGM wank and I get this? You disappoint me, WGW. | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:10 pm | |
| - EileenK98 wrote:
- I read the title of this thread and was expecting it to be about intimate plastic surgery on inmates.
Oh, come on, I can't have been the only one! You weren't. I thought the same thing. Actually, I'm confused about this. The labia majora/minora don't really equal the clitoral hood. What body part are we talking about here, because I have no idea? The article seems to be saying something else and the OP and everyone else are saying something different. e: the article does mention that prisoners have been made to pull back their clitoral hoods, which is... yeah. :/ That doesn't make any sense, except to humiliate someone. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| Oh so now you're all opposed to making criminals suffer. | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:05 am | |
| - Verandering wrote:
- Oh so now you're all opposed to making criminals suffer.
What is that supposed to mean? e: I think I was overreacting and the comment was more general than aimed at me specifically, so derp derp, sorry Verandering. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Lapin Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 35 Location : Maryland
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:22 am | |
| - Verandering wrote:
- Oh so now you're all opposed to making criminals suffer.
I assume you're talking about the casual hope of criminals being raped in prison that often gets thrown around? | |
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Azzandra Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-10-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:53 pm | |
| Why do I get the impression that this is a measure thought up by someone who knows what a labia is only in theory? | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 38 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:15 am | |
| This is confusing. I'm fairly sure I can't fit anything under my clitoral hood except my clitoris.
I think I agree with OzymandiasBowie (hello! I haven't met you before, but you seem cool). This looks like it's all about humiliation. I also wonder whether they do anything analogous with male prisoners. Perhaps making them spread their scrotums and pull foreskins back? If they don't, then I'm very cross indeed. | |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:13 pm | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- This is confusing. I'm fairly sure I can't fit anything under my clitoral hood except my clitoris.
I think I agree with OzymandiasBowie (hello! I haven't met you before, but you seem cool). This looks like it's all about humiliation. I also wonder whether they do anything analogous with male prisoners. Perhaps making them spread their scrotums and pull foreskins back? If they don't, then I'm very cross indeed. Thanks. From what I've read, male prisoners aren't made to peel back their foreskins. But, really, are we surprised that women are humiliated when men are not? | |
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Sheba Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:37 pm | |
| I thought males in the U.S were usually circumsized at birth? Maybe that's why. I guess they could force them to do...whatever it is goatse guy is doing, though. Cavity search or whatever. | |
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Dr. Quinzel Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-01-13 Age : 35 Location : DeGroot Keep
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:22 pm | |
| - TheHedonist wrote:
- EileenK98 wrote:
- I read the title of this thread and was expecting it to be about intimate plastic surgery on inmates.
Oh, come on, I can't have been the only one! You weren't. I was expecting FGM wank and I get this?
You disappoint me, WGW. Here, maybe this video can give you your wank. (obviously NSFW) - Spoiler:
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KelinciHutan Global Nomad
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 39 Location : USS Enterprise
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:52 pm | |
| - Sheba wrote:
- I thought males in the U.S were usually circumsized at birth?
It's not mandatory, but that is the general convention, yes. | |
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Jesus. Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-11-16 Age : 33 Location : Somewhere in the past, I blinked.
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:54 pm | |
| - KelinciHutan wrote:
- Sheba wrote:
- I thought males in the U.S were usually circumsized at birth?
It's not mandatory, but that is the general convention, yes. Convention, yes, and generally doctors regard it as standard procedure unless otherwise specified. | |
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Verandering The Gender Offender
Join date : 2009-06-04 Location : Colorado
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:31 pm | |
| Hey! Look! We're talking about the penis again, in a thread about the vagina! | |
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Saleha Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:47 pm | |
| - Verandering wrote:
- Hey! Look!
We're talking about the penis again, in a thread about the vagina! I propose the creation of "Mohel law" - it's like Godwin in a way, only it states that, as threads in this here news forum grow longer, the probability of the discussion involving circumcision tends toward 1. Corollary: If the thread is about genitalia of whichever shape or form, the trend sharply inclines. | |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:06 pm | |
| - Saleha wrote:
- Verandering wrote:
- Hey! Look!
We're talking about the penis again, in a thread about the vagina! I propose the creation of "Mohel law" - it's like Godwin in a way, only it states that, as threads in this here news forum grow longer, the probability of the discussion involving circumcision tends toward 1.
Corollary: If the thread is about genitalia of whichever shape or form, the trend sharply inclines. Please, let's. We have a whole topic somewhere devoted to bitching about cut dick. | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:29 pm | |
| - OzymandiasBowie wrote:
- Please, let's. We have a whole topic somewhere devoted to bitching about cut dick.
Huh, I love how you phrase a human rights issue like that. :/ - ZoZo wrote:
- This is confusing. I'm fairly sure I can't fit anything under my clitoral hood except my clitoris.
Some people can fit a q-tip underneath their hoods (fun fact: if you can do this, you have anatomy that's suited for a clitoral hood piercing). - Quote :
- This looks like it's all about humiliation. I also wonder whether they do anything analogous with male prisoners. Perhaps making them spread their scrotums and pull foreskins back? If they don't, then I'm very cross indeed.
Actually, I wondered about this a long while before this particular line of thought came up. You could potentially fit something under a foreskin that you could never fit under a clitoral hood, unless you had a huge clitoris or some sort of mega-hood. Dunno how effective balls would be as a stash-hiding place. And yeah, I would be interested in knowing if European prisons do what ZoZo just described. Question: do prisons do vaginal exams with a finger or other object when they do cavity searches? I'd imagine that vaginal exams and/or anal exams would be humiliating enough for prisoners of either sex/gender. Especially given how incredibly paranoid and fearful some straight guys seem to be about having anything poked up into their asses. | |
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OzymandiasBowie Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-03-12 Age : 33 Location : West Coast; US.
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:45 pm | |
| - Malganis wrote:
Question: do prisons do vaginal exams with a finger or other object when they do cavity searches? I'd imagine that vaginal exams and/or anal exams would be humiliating enough for prisoners of either sex/gender. Especially given how incredibly paranoid and fearful some straight guys seem to be about having anything poked up into their asses. No, the normal procedure is for a prisoner to sneeze or cough while bending over something. The theory is that whatever is in their vagina or anus will dislodge. I haven't read anything about fingers or objects being involved as a matter of standard procedure. | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: With Every Incarceration, Get a Free Labia Lift. Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:52 am | |
| - OzymandiasBowie wrote:
- Malganis wrote:
Question: do prisons do vaginal exams with a finger or other object when they do cavity searches? I'd imagine that vaginal exams and/or anal exams would be humiliating enough for prisoners of either sex/gender. Especially given how incredibly paranoid and fearful some straight guys seem to be about having anything poked up into their asses. No, the normal procedure is for a prisoner to sneeze or cough while bending over something. The theory is that whatever is in their vagina or anus will dislodge. I haven't read anything about fingers or objects being involved as a matter of standard procedure. Okay, thanks, didn't know that. I could imagine that someone could potentially poke something up there that could be too far to be dislodged with just a sneeze/cough, but then, if they did, it probably wouldn't come back down without additional help. | |
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