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+7Penguin thebonerules Spotts1701 Psy-4 Maximilia Malganis TheHermit 11 posters |
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TheHermit Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:02 pm | |
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- In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer.
Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists. - Quote :
- In short, recordings that are flattering to the police - an officer kissing a baby or rescuing a dog - will almost certainly not result in prosecution even if they are done without all-party consent. The only people who seem prone to prosecution are those who embarrass or confront the police, or who somehow challenge the law. If true, then the prosecutions are a form of social control to discourage criticism of the police or simple dissent.
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- Almost without exception, police officials have staunchly supported the arresting officers. This argues strongly against the idea that some rogue officers are overreacting or that a few cops have something to hide. "Arrest those who record the police" appears to be official policy, and it's backed by the courts.
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- Happily, even as the practice of arresting "shooters" expands, there are signs of effective backlash. At least one Pennsylvania jurisdiction has reaffirmed the right to video in public places. As part of a settlement with ACLU attorneys who represented an arrested "shooter," the police in Spring City and East Vincent Township adopted a written policy allowing the recording of on-duty policemen.
As journalist Radley Balko declares, "State legislatures should consider passing laws explicitly making it legal to record on-duty law enforcement officials." | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| This is disturbing. While I can see situations where the police wouldn't want random people with cameras getting involved in dangerous situations and possibly getting hurt or interfering with police work, video cameras can be used to get footage from a good distance away, and I would think that cases of interference could be taken on a case-by-case basis, rather than with tolitarian, stifling laws like this. | |
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Maximilia My spoon is too big.
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 50 Location : South Dakota
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:13 pm | |
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Psy-4 Armbiter of Good Fanfiction
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:22 pm | |
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Spotts1701 Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 44 Location : New Vertiform City
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| I got 30 years of court cases saying that the First Amendment protects anyone who is videotaping police officers in public in the performance of their duties.
No way these go anywhere. They're unconstitutional on their face. | |
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Malganis Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:57 pm | |
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thebonerules
Join date : 2010-01-27 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:58 pm | |
| Even in places where it isn't, officers insist it is illegal to videotape them. | |
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Maximilia My spoon is too big.
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 50 Location : South Dakota
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| The only possible way it could be illegal was if it was interfering in the performance of their duties, ala obstruction of justice, which is a criminal offense. Standing across the street filming them does not interfere with their duties. Now, sticking the lens in the cop's face...I might be able to see that as interfering. | |
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Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:42 am | |
| - Spotts1701 wrote:
- I got 30 years of court cases saying that the First Amendment protects anyone who is videotaping police officers in public in the performance of their duties.
No way these go anywhere. They're unconstitutional on their face. Additionally, other police departments are looking at including compact, weapon-mounted cameras. These are intended to clear up any gray areas in police shootings when it comes to deciding whether it was a justified shooting or excessive force. | |
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Grunge
Join date : 2010-02-20 Location : The windy city
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:07 am | |
| I live in one of the three states....... Cops out here need big brothers eye on them also. Anyway to challenge this new unspectacular law? | |
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Lady Anne NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 47 Location : The land of the fruits and nuts
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:11 pm | |
| - Grunge wrote:
- I live in one of the three states....... Cops out here need big brothers eye on them also. Anyway to challenge this new unspectacular law?
Three options: 1. Write your representatives (state legislative, governor, federal legislative) 2. Contact the ACLU. 3. Get your hands on a broken video camera. Point it at the police. When arrested, complain that you didn't do anything wrong and your rights are being violated. Make a big fuss and attract the attention of the media. Make sure to emphasize that the law applies only to actual videotaping of police and not to playing with a broken camera. When the shit hits the fan, come here and wank about it. | |
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Grunge
Join date : 2010-02-20 Location : The windy city
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:09 pm | |
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- On his website Drew wrote, "Myself and three other artists who
documented my actions tried for two months to get the police to arrest me for selling art downtown so we could test the Chicago peddlers license law. The police hesitated for two months because they knew it would mean a federal court case. With this felony charge they are trying to avoid this test and ruin me financially and stain my credibility." Sounds like the guy wanted to goto jail. | |
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Chris91 Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-13 Age : 57 Location : Salem, Mass., USA
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:29 am | |
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TheHermit Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:07 pm | |
| - Grunge wrote:
- Sounds like the guy wanted to goto jail.
Yes, but in the service of a greater goal. The idea was to appeal the case up to the Supreme Court. This is a not-uncommon strategy to strike down an unconstitutional law (the Scopes Monkey Trial is the most famous occurrence of this tactic being used). | |
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rachel Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-07-19
| Subject: Re: Videotape police abusing their power? That's a felony. Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:43 pm | |
| - TheHermit wrote:
- Grunge wrote:
- Sounds like the guy wanted to goto jail.
Yes, but in the service of a greater goal. The idea was to appeal the case up to the Supreme Court. This is a not-uncommon strategy to strike down an unconstitutional law (the Scopes Monkey Trial is the most famous occurrence of this tactic being used). And also the Dred Scott case. That one backfired, though. | |
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