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+14Cyberwulf Seule Chris91 Penguin Harley Quinn hyenaholic tachikoma01 Ezri Dax ZoZo The Unoriginal Azzandra Lysander Chaltab Rabid Badger rachel 18 posters |
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rachel Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-07-19
| Subject: Educational 'waterboarding'? Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:13 pm | |
| I don't think that it's technically waterboarding, but it's still a shitty thing for him to have done. - Quote :
- A soldier waterboarded his four-year-old daughter because she was unable to recite her alphabet.
Joshua Tabor admitted to police he had used the CIA torture technique because he was so angry.
As his daughter 'squirmed' to get away, Tabor said he submerged her face three or four times until the water was lapping around her forehead and jawline.
Tabor, 27, who had won custody of his daughter only four weeks earlier, admitted choosing the punishment because the girl was terrified of water.
And this from the parent that the court awarded custody to. I wonder if that was before or after this: - Quote :
- Tabor, a soldier at the Lewis-McChord base in Tacoma, Washington, was arrested after being seen walking around his neighbourhood wearing a Kevlar military helmet and threatening to break windows.
I think maybe this guy needs treatment. The daughter definitely needs a new parent. | |
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Rabid Badger And This is Why I Need Medication
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:25 pm | |
| There isn't enough PTSD in the world to be blamed for this.
One wonders what his wife did to the kid for him to gain custody of her. | |
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Chaltab Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 36 Location : Outside the middle of nowhere
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| That's what I was thinking, Badger. If the father was awarded custody, what's the mother like? O_O | |
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Lysander Armbiter of Good Fanfiction
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:08 pm | |
| Welcome to life in the Bauer household. | |
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Azzandra Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-10-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:23 am | |
| Why do I get the feeling this asshole joined the military just so he could indulge in more power-trips? He's a bully. Giving him a gun and combat training is only going to end in trouble. | |
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The Unoriginal Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-17
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:09 am | |
| - Azzandra wrote:
- Why do I get the feeling this asshole joined the military just so he could indulge in more power-trips? He's a bully. Giving him a gun and combat training is only going to end in trouble.
Yeah, but with any luck, he could be the one stepping into an IED instead of a kid-loving, locals-friendly grunt. | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 38 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:19 am | |
| - Lysander wrote:
- Welcome to life in the Bauer household.
Nah, that's bollocks. If it was chez Bauer, the little girl would have got kidnapped. Three times. In a day. The question that springs to mind for me was, was she better at the alphabet after this? | |
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Ezri Dax Sporkbender
Join date : 2010-02-02 Location : Stuck in a timewarp.
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:29 am | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Lysander wrote:
- Welcome to life in the Bauer household.
Nah, that's bollocks. If it was chez Bauer, the little girl would have got kidnapped. Three times. In a day.
The question that springs to mind for me was, was she better at the alphabet after this? If anything the trauma would make her LESS able to recite the alphabet due to nervousness, and very likely even more afraid of the water. WTF was this arsehole thinking? How can anyone get THAT angry that their child hasn't perfected the alphabet yet? I think that this man is a potential psychopath and should be in the dock for this... it's child abuse. | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 38 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:04 am | |
| Ah, Daily Mash says it nicely. | |
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tachikoma01 Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-07-07
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:12 am | |
| Sometimes you can be surprised how lawyers can swing things in custody cases. At least, I'm *hoping* it was sleezy lawyers rather than both of them being barely able to call themselves human, let alone parents. | |
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Harley Quinn hyenaholic Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-12 Age : 39 Location : Taking that picture...
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:52 am | |
| How could he think this would help her learn her alphabet? If he wanted her to learn her alphabet why couldn't he sit down with her and an alphabet book and read it together? | |
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Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:02 am | |
| That's not waterboarding. | |
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Chris91 Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-13 Age : 57 Location : Salem, Mass., USA
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:45 am | |
| The WTF factor of this story is so far off the charts it's almost in another solar system. I mean, how warped do you have to be to waterboard your own kids? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:16 pm | |
| - Chris91 wrote:
- The WTF factor of this story is so far off the charts it's almost in another solar system.
I mean, how warped do you have to be to waterboard your own kids? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] What did I just fucking say? This isn't waterboarding. Having said that, this is clearly a disturbed individual and needs his parental rights revoked immediately, and the lockup with intensive treatment. PTSD? No. The fact that he was wandering around in his Kevlar annoying the neighbors is well beyond that. There's something else at play here and he needs to be isolated before he can hurt anyone else. | |
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Seule My Mescaline
Join date : 2009-06-11 Age : 31 Location : Tea & Castle Land
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:01 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Tabor, a soldier at the Lewis-McChord base in Tacoma, Washington, was arrested after being seen walking around his neighbourhood wearing a Kevlar military helmet and threatening to break windows.
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Azzandra Sporkbender
Join date : 2009-10-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:04 pm | |
| - The Unoriginal wrote:
- Azzandra wrote:
- Why do I get the feeling this asshole joined the military just so he could indulge in more power-trips? He's a bully. Giving him a gun and combat training is only going to end in trouble.
Yeah, but with any luck, he could be the one stepping into an IED instead of a kid-loving, locals-friendly grunt. Pfft. Given his record so far, he'd probably push that kid-loving, locals-friendly grunt onto one. | |
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Cyberwulf NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 42 Location : TRILOBITE!
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:49 pm | |
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ZoZo Knight of the Bleach
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 38 Location : In WD40's head
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:57 pm | |
| - Cyberwulf wrote:
- Daily Fail? Seriously?
I didn't even click the link. Now I'm completely disinclined to believe it. So yeah, did she improve at her ABCs? | |
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Rabid Badger And This is Why I Need Medication
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:31 pm | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Cyberwulf wrote:
- Daily Fail? Seriously?
I didn't even click the link. Now I'm completely disinclined to believe it.
So yeah, did she improve at her ABCs? I doubt it, given that when the police found her, she was huddled in a corner of the bathroom at 2 a.m., trying to hide from her father. | |
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theromangeneral
Join date : 2009-06-13 Age : 43
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:54 pm | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Cyberwulf wrote:
- Daily Fail? Seriously?
I didn't even click the link. Now I'm completely disinclined to believe it.
So yeah, did she improve at her ABCs? If it helps credibility any From SHM Australia. | |
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KelinciHutan Global Nomad
Join date : 2009-06-03 Age : 39 Location : USS Enterprise
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:09 pm | |
| Here are some US sources as well. A local news agency and USA Today. This one is true, it seems. | |
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Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES
Join date : 2009-07-18 Location : Wild Gray Yonder
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:43 am | |
| - ZoZo wrote:
- Cyberwulf wrote:
- Daily Fail? Seriously?
I didn't even click the link. Now I'm completely disinclined to believe it. That was my initial reaction until other news sources picked it up. | |
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The Unoriginal Shitgobbling pissdrinker
Join date : 2009-06-17
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:14 am | |
| Considering the method my granny used to teach my mother the difference between "m's" and "n's" (read: one good smack upside the head), I never doubted this could happen. BTW, reportedly my mother was suddenly able to discern m's from n's with unprecedented clarity, and now she tells the story as if it was funny. Go figure. I was also taught to read/write by my granny, but I don't recall such accidents. Perhaps she had mellowed with age. | |
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myeerah Contributor
Join date : 2009-06-10 Age : 46
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:23 pm | |
| - The Unoriginal wrote:
- Considering the method my granny used to teach my mother the difference between "m's" and "n's" (read: one good smack upside the head), I never doubted this could happen.
BTW, reportedly my mother was suddenly able to discern m's from n's with unprecedented clarity, and now she tells the story as if it was funny. Go figure. I was also taught to read/write by my granny, but I don't recall such accidents. Perhaps she had mellowed with age. It took a good bop upside the head to make me understand that multiplying two negatives made a positive when I was taking algebra. But a gentle bop is not even remotely equivalent to attempted drowning. | |
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grmblfjx Hot and Botherer
Join date : 2009-06-10
| Subject: Re: Educational 'waterboarding'? Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:04 pm | |
| - Ezri Dax wrote:
- If anything the trauma would make her LESS able to recite the alphabet due to nervousness, and very likely even more afraid of the water.
Actually, fear is a big incentive for learning. Studies have shown that fear is a bigger incentive than reward, in any case. It makes sense, too; tell your kid not to go near the lions and it might forget. Tell your kid the lions will eat it and it won't forget. Have your kid see another kid get eaten and he'll be thinking about nothing but for a while. So unfortunately, fucked up as it is, parents who take this route in teaching their children (beatings for bad grades or what have you) will actually see results and feel justified. | |
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