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An 88-year-old gunman with a violent and virulently anti-Semitic past opened fire with a rifle inside the crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday, fatally wounding a security guard before being shot himself by other officers, authorities said.

Now this guy, James von Brunn, was a real nut - in 1981, he broke into the Federal Reserve armed with a revolver and sawed-off shotgun. When arrested, he claimed that he was there to "arrest" then-Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. He did 6 1/2 years in federal prison for that.

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I was really tempted to blame this all on senility, given that he's 88 and all... but motherfucker's been crazy a lot longer than that, it seems. scratch
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Crazy, racist and anti-Semitic! It's like a revolting senile stew!

Goddammit, he grew up in my home town. We're not all like that one, folks!
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Sheba wrote:
Crazy, racist and anti-Semitic! It's like a revolting senile stew!

Goddammit, he grew up in my home town. We're not all like that one, folks!
...yeah, I need to go to bed, because I read that as "A revolting senile Jew", which. No.

Ignoring that, what the fucking hell. I'm glad he got taken out before he could hurt anyone else.
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My sister texted me about this during work. Holy shit. This is fucking insane. It was also my favorite museum. ;-;
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Crazy bastard.

On top of evil and anti-Semitic, is it bad that I'm really cross because he did it at a museum?
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I work less than 2 miles from the museum. I heard nothing but sirens all afternoon. No
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Damn, I wonder how long he's been waiting to do something stupid on his 88th birthday (88 tends to be a neo-nazi shorthand code for "Heil Hitler" and is used generally as an all around LOL LOOK AT ME I AM A DOUCHE TOO symbol). That's a pretty pathetic life if you ask me.

I feel sorry for the security guard. What did he or anyone else there have anything to do with... Anything? Respecting the dead is too much?
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The security guard is a real hero by all accounts. Who knows how many lives he saved that day?


Now, maybe I'm a little too pedantic but why does the media refer to this guy as a white supremacist in the context of this story? He is both anti-Semetic and a white supremacist. But his crime (this time) was motivated by the anti-Semetic part of him, not the white supremacist part of him. While both parts are equally revolting, I think it would be more precise to refer to him as an anti-semetic.
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Am I the only one who thinks this smells of a "Suicide-by-cop" attempt?
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Freezer wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks this smells of a "Suicide-by-cop" attempt?
No, you're not. Count me in.
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What's really sad is that this kind of thing is becoming more common. Supposedly since Obama's election, white supremicist crimes have gone up dramatically.
We can thank the internet for getting them all together. This nutcase also ran a website in which he ranted a lot about white supremecy.


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I was a bit surprised that an 88-year-old did this. Most people with such violent tendencies don't live that long--they piss off the wrong person and get killed long before the age of 88.
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Yeah, the best thing to do is throw Obama out. That will placate those nasty Nazi supremacists, and we won't have any more of those gunnings!

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Lady Anne wrote:
I was a bit surprised that an 88-year-old did this. Most people with such violent tendencies don't live that long--they piss off the wrong person and get killed long before the age of 88.
Considering that his mindset and behavior towards minorities was considered widely acceptable until less than 40 years ago, I can see how he lasted this long. Most old white supremacists do, really.
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Bamshalam wrote:
Lady Anne wrote:
I was a bit surprised that an 88-year-old did this. Most people with such violent tendencies don't live that long--they piss off the wrong person and get killed long before the age of 88.
Considering that his mindset and behavior towards minorities was considered widely acceptable until less than 40 years ago, I can see how he lasted this long. Most old white supremacists do, really.

Yeah, this is true.

What amuses me is that somehow the tin-foil hat brigade on the right (which is slowly and horrifyingly becoming more insane as they try to grab the reins of the GOP) is trying to argue that this guy was a raging leftist because he also hated George W. Bush and "neo-conservatives". And that it's also Obama's fault because you know...he had the gall to run for President and win.

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Spotts1701 wrote:
Yeah, this is true.

What amuses me is that somehow the tin-foil hat brigade on the right (which is slowly and horrifyingly becoming more insane as they try to grab the reins of the GOP) is trying to argue that this guy was a raging leftist because he also hated George W. Bush and "neo-conservatives". And that it's also Obama's fault because you know...he had the gall to run for President and win.
Wait, what?
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theweirdkind wrote:
Spotts1701 wrote:
Yeah, this is true.

What amuses me is that somehow the tin-foil hat brigade on the right (which is slowly and horrifyingly becoming more insane as they try to grab the reins of the GOP) is trying to argue that this guy was a raging leftist because he also hated George W. Bush and "neo-conservatives". And that it's also Obama's fault because you know...he had the gall to run for President and win.
Wait, what?
It's hard to tell who is more batshit...this guy or the wingnuts.
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Lady Anne wrote:
theweirdkind wrote:
Spotts1701 wrote:
Yeah, this is true.

What amuses me is that somehow the tin-foil hat brigade on the right (which is slowly and horrifyingly becoming more insane as they try to grab the reins of the GOP) is trying to argue that this guy was a raging leftist because he also hated George W. Bush and "neo-conservatives". And that it's also Obama's fault because you know...he had the gall to run for President and win.
Wait, what?
It's hard to tell who is more batshit...this guy or the wingnuts.
I don't know, the wingnuts haven't gone a murder spree... that we know of.
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theweirdkind wrote:
Spotts1701 wrote:
Yeah, this is true.

What amuses me is that somehow the tin-foil hat brigade on the right (which is slowly and horrifyingly becoming more insane as they try to grab the reins of the GOP) is trying to argue that this guy was a raging leftist because he also hated George W. Bush and "neo-conservatives". And that it's also Obama's fault because you know...he had the gall to run for President and win.
Wait, what?

*puts on hazmat suit and wades into the insanity*

Michelle Malkin wrote:
As I said on Glenn Beck’s radio show this morning, the Holocaust Museum shooter was an equal-opportunity hater and a lifetime loon.

Rick Moran wrote:
Evidently, even though von Brunn is identified as a “right wing Christian,” he didn’t have much use for them either. Or Neocons. Or Bush. Some “right wing” Christian...They come to this brilliant psychological conclusion by “connecting the dots.” Shooter is “obviously” a conservative. Conservatives are “anti-govrenment.” Hence, the reason the shooter opened fire was because he was influenced by conservative harangues against government. This kind of dot connecting is simple minded idiocy.

Leon Wolfe wrote:

Let’s review the bidding, shall we? What we know about von Brunn is that he:
* Hated Christians.
* Despised Bush and McCain.
* Posted lengthy rants about “Neocons” involved in Jewish conspiracies to alter U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel.
* He placed credence in 9/11 “truther” theories.
This guy sounds waaay right-wing to me.

If you'll excuse me, I need to go wash now and burn the suit.

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