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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:50 pm

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Okay, I can accept constructive criticism--as long as it makes sense. Changing that sentence in that way does not. It changes the subject of the sentence and makes it appear that the camera decides to turn by itself.

Looks like somebody is still laboring under the impression that their computer's grammar checker is all-knowing...
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:19 pm

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Authors that respond like that are always the ones that make me think, "Yes, this is why I leave constructive reviews." <3
The weird part is I got this warm, fuzzy feeling about her reply. And not because my cat was sitting on my desk.

The same thing happened to me last week. I posted this:

Something like that happened to me on, of all places, Yahoo Answers! Someone posted an excerpt from a story she'd written, asking, "Does it hook you?" I laid into it as ruthlessly as I could, prefacing my response with "WARNING: I play hardball, and I assume that you're posting this because you want criticism. If you want only to be told how wonderful your writing is, skip over this reply." I went through it line by line and sometimes word by word:

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"Doctor Penland transitioned his glance from the curtain to her."
"Transitioned" is not a word. What's wrong with "Doctor Penland glanced from the curtain to her", or simply "Doctor Penland glanced at her"?

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" “Miss. Reyes,” "
No period after Miss -- it's not an abbreviation.

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" “If you do not want to see one, then you may-” "
There's a comma after the last quoted speech and another after the description -- that means both portions of the quote are a single sentence, so no capital. (You wouldn't write him as saying "Miss Reyes, If you do not want to see one".)

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"Nella stiffened her posture upright, preparing for the sight, but still cringing."
How can she both stiff and upright and at the same time cringing?

And to my astonishment, the asker chose this as "best answer" with the comment, "Awesome, this was exactly what I was looking for."
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:12 pm

All the spambots on the Guestbook forum reminded me of this LJ comment I got awhile back:

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Terrific work! This is the type of information that should be shared around the web. Shame on the search engines for not positioning this post higher!

Not too wtf (despite the clear misinformation on how search engines work) until I realized it was posted on one of my particularly graphic slash fics. Made me giggle, anyway. I'm pretty sure there's already plenty of gay sex on the internet, but thanks for your vote of confidence, spambot...
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:57 pm

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What happens when you find the love of your life and he is the end of all humanity?

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I'm intrigued......look forward to seeing where this story goes!!

One question: Is this story Non fiction, a true story?? You list in the warnings Non-Fic.......


The Non-Fic warning isn't there (anymore?), but even so-


...yes, this totally happened to me. Hooked up with the end of all humanity. Good times, good times.

I mean:

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As Cade’s fingers came in contact with the soft beautiful cheek he felt an odd tingle shoot up through his arm, it wasn’t painful but it wasn’t something he had never felt. Cade jumped when the boy’s head rolled into his hand causing the tingling to increase slightly.


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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:10 pm

He had a scythe and he was very skinny.

TALKED LIKE THIS.

Good times, good times.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:16 pm

Oh, God, how did I not think of that. >.<
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:58 pm

Recently for the story Prison Island Break (AU about Sonic in a prison, I'd tell you to give it a look but you're all prudes about M/M rape... Wink ) in the very first chapter I said "I won't be including any original characters because the Sonic Universe has more than enough characters for the fic." Or words to that effect.

But me and my co-writer still got two messages with people who liked our story so much they wanted their OCs in it...

That would be encouraging, except that one character's backstory involved that his 16 year old character had managed to rape both Shadow and Knuckles (between them they had already been stated to being a psychopath and a homosexual, neither of whom would be raped in any regular circumstances). Therefore his character was the King of the Prison, except he didn't mention it because he didn't care for titles. Not to mention his selection of crimes were kind of fuzzy.

That would have not only fucked up almost everything that we had established and had yet to come in the story but would have pushed a crappy Marty Stu into the fic.

The other was a female OC who was totally overlooking the fact that this was a MALE prison and the only females were employees. Incidentally, her sender said absolutely jack shit about the character. High Security prisons filled with rapists and murderers who are highly dangerous to the general population ARE NOT CO-ED. Well, not until you go to Mexico anyway...

It's nice that lots of people like the story (and even better that a lot of people thought I kept the characters IC despite the Contextual Reassignment) but when they know next to nothing about the setting and don't seem to be paying attention to the story itself it kind of takes away from the fact that they enjoyed the story.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:25 pm

This isn't nearly as bad as the ones everyone else has shared, but...

A while ago, I wrote a Persona 4 fic (make of that what you will). I didn't expect it to get many reviews, since it focused on one of the more unpopular characters in the game. To my surprise, I received several nice, elaborate reviews, in which the reviewers actually took time to tell me what they liked about my story and how I could improve.

And then I got a two-word review:
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pretty good

I'm glad that he liked my story, but I don't like seeing a review alert in my inbox, getting excited over it, and subsequently having my hopes dashed when I see a review like this. This review doesn't say any more than a simple favorite can.

I know I'm just complaining pointlessly, but it really irks me.

...I guess that's it.

/end rant

Oh, and there's also the story alerts and inquiries as to whether or not I'll continue a story I've either implied or outright stated I'm finished with.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:40 am

Harley, look. Two things.


Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
I'd tell you to give it a look but you're all prudes about M/M rape... Wink
I think it's the fact that it's Sonic the Hedgehog porn, actually.



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a psychopath and a homosexual, neither of whom would be raped in any regular circumstances
You better tell me you're not saying that gay guys can't be raped.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:44 am

Don't be ridiculous, grmbl. You're assuming way too much...

The first comment was a JOKE, as you should be able to tell from the little *wink* I inserted. Yes, I know I have the sense of humour of a German sausage but surely even you can interpret a smiley...

On the second comment, there's no way I ever said gay guys can't be raped. In fact if you get raped in prison and admit it you are automatically classed as a fag (leading to more rape). Whereas if you're the rapist you're not. Sad but true.

What I would have said if I'd thought ANYBODY would get that idea from that sentance is that due to the strength and personalities of those two characters (only one of whom is actually homosexual; Shadow is just flat out a psychopath), they had not been fucked by other inmates. If you'd read the story (your choice) you'd see it would be because most inmates are shit-scared of them.

In effect, the worst part was that even though I had said in the story that Shadow and Knuckles had not been raped because they were too strong for that, the reviewer-fan wanted his character to have fucked them both just so that his character could be classed as the strongest guy in the prison. As if being the biggest rapist automatically makes you the most powerful guy in prison.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:28 am

Anonymous review on a Katekyo Hitman Reborn story:

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YOU FINALLY ALLOW ANONYMOUS REVIEWS! God, were you afraid of flames or something? I wanted to review since chapter one! _

Anyway, I'm confused on some parts. Is Chie in love with Kusakabe? She only blushes around him.

I'm in Hawaii right now~ I can't wait to see you again~! I'll bring you some floral shirts and a coconut bikini. You can wear it. Just. For. Me. 333

Jk Luca.

UPDATE SOON, SLAVE

-kei

haha, I'm copying your signature!

That's not creepy at all...

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I don't like seeing a review alert in my inbox, getting excited over it, and subsequently having my hopes dashed when I see a review like this. This review doesn't say any more than a simple favorite can.

Practically every writer talks about how it only takes few seconds to review in their A/N's, so that's what those reviewers do. They take a max of 20 seconds out of their day, write crappy short review and leave. This leaves them feeling good about themselves because they pissed you off helped you.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:47 am

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Practically every writer talks about how it only takes few seconds to review in their A/N's, so that's what those reviewers do. They take a max of 20 seconds out of their day, write crappy short review and leave. This leaves them feeling good about themselves because they pissed you off helped you.

It seems pretty entitled to whine about short reviews. They don't have to leave any feedback at all. It's one thing if they're rude or pushy or were apparently reading an entirely different story than the one you wrote, but short? How dare they spend twenty seconds to say "I liked it" instead of praising each element of your shining prose.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:00 am

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Practically every writer talks about how it only takes few seconds to review in their A/N's, so that's what those reviewers do. They take a max of 20 seconds out of their day, write crappy short review and leave. This leaves them feeling good about themselves because they pissed you off helped you.

It seems pretty entitled to whine about short reviews. They don't have to leave any feedback at all. It's one thing if they're rude or pushy or were apparently reading an entirely different story than the one you wrote, but short? How dare they spend twenty seconds to say "I liked it" instead of praising each element of your shining prose.

I apologize for sounding 'entitled' as you put it, short reviews are just pet peeve of mine. I realize they don't have to leave any feedback but really is a super short review any different from simply adding it to their favourites? I'm not saying all of it has to be praise but it'd be nice for them to a follow up comment, even if it's just on sentence. Like, if they said they hated the story, they could say the main reason behind their hating it. Just one more sentence saying what they dislike or like about the story.

Still, even then short reviews can be nice. I mean, if someone posted a story that they were proud of and one person just said 'I like it.' or 'This story is interesting.', it can give them a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that one person actually took time out of their day too say what they thought of the story.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:12 am

It isn't really different from a favorite (there's a similar argument about AO3 comments vs. kudos), but some folks don't use the favorites feature, so. I understand the desire for more substance, but I don't think you can really get mad at the reviewer for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:19 am

Hmm, true about the not using favourites thing. Like I said, it's just a pet peeve. A few are all right but when I see a lot of short reviews for a really good story it tends to grind on my nerves. Those writers put a lot of work in to their story so wouldn't it only be fair for the reviewers to return the favour?

They don't make me mad otherwise, feedback is feedback. I suppose I'd just like to see more balance between how work a writer puts in to their story and how much work a reviewer puts in to their review. That's just my opinion though.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:06 pm

It's not the shortness of the short reviews that I mind, but the worrying feeling that whoever is writing it doesn't know a fucking rat's ass about quality of work and therefore their opinion is pretty much worthless.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:22 pm

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It seems pretty entitled to whine about short reviews. They don't have to leave any feedback at all. It's one thing if they're rude or pushy or were apparently reading an entirely different story than the one you wrote, but short? How dare they spend twenty seconds to say "I liked it" instead of praising each element of your shining prose.

It's not that I'm mad at the reviewers for giving me a short review, or that I'm not happy to know that they liked my story. It's just that such reviews don't help me to determine the actual quality of my writing or help me improve. It's all too easy to tell me that "it was okay", but that doesn't really say anything. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but it just bothers me.

Also, it has nothing to do with praise. I would prefer a review that picked out every single mistake or inaccuracy in my writing over a review that just said "it was okay".

Of course, nobody has to write a review. Then again, nobody has to write fanfiction in the first place. That being the case, wouldn't you rather read a detailed, well-thought out story than a 50-word story with absolutely no substance?
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:42 pm

I can understand the frustration with short reviews. If you're just looking for praise "pretty good" or "nice" is fine, but if you want to know what people liked about it and what they didn't like, it's kind of a let-down.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:31 am

So I've been following a story on AFF.net, one that isn't entirely world-changing but still endearing for the mere fact that it's on a spaceship, with aliens, instead of your usual yaoi fare with fairies and/or highschool.

The latest chapter ends on this note:


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Random Fact: Reviews help motivate me to write more and to update more and sooner. It is the lifeblood of ALL writers, (especially the ones like me who do not get paid to write). Even the ones that get paid to write still want feedback. Please do take the short time that it does take to review. It takes reviewers about 1-5 minutes to review whereas it takes us writers 1-20 hours to write a chapter. I was really disappointed in the lack of reviews for CH10. In spite of that, I did get a couple of good reviews, at least. Danke! (That’s German for “Thanks”)


I got a little mad.


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Here's a review.

I'm sorry, but you have 83 reviews (count them: EIGHTY-THREE) for eleven chapters. There are people with three or four reviews for the same amount of chapters, some of the stories pretty decent, and do they bitch about it? NO. They keep updating, even if several chapters go by with NO REVIEWS AT ALL.
Yet here you are, posting a passive-aggressive "random fact" (really, now?), giving us a condescending lecture about how long it takes to review, and how much writers want reviews. You think we don't know? You think others don't want reviews?

I often read reviews, actually, and I have never seen your name anywhere. Do you practice what you preach? Do you review others? It only takes three to five minutes, you know.


This story has been nice enough so far, didn't blow my mind but I liked it because it was different from the usual fare- but this attitude? Fuck that noise.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:00 am

I love it when fans get angry at you for characterizing someone according to canon (ie. they're a cold, calculating, "ends justify the means" kind of good-guy asshole) instead of fanon (ie. cute and adorably grumpy on occasion, but still up for cuddles and loves talking about feelings and shit). It's like these people aren't actually familiar with any of the actual works this crap is based on and their entire exposure to the franchise has been through DA and fanfic.

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But, as a 'Prowl fan', I'm not delighted that he got an extra helping of 'prick' with regard to his portrayal here.

How about I'm not ever delighted whenever he gets an extra helping of "infantilizing", "ineffective", and "emotional"? Which is like, all the time?
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:09 am

I just got this on my Hetalia fanfic, and I'm completely baffled by it. I have no idea where the reviewer got these ideas from. Maybe I fail history so hard that I don't even realise it, but I like to think that the other reviewers would have said something if there were goof-ups this big in my story.

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Darling, I believe that you have mixed up Weimar Germany (Post world war one) with post world war two germany. The republic was found after ww1 and same with the invasion of the Ruhr.

Also, you said Saar.. did you mean Tsar by any chance?

Yeah, because it makes perfect sense that Germany and France would discuss the Tsar and not the Saar area post-WW2.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:54 am

The republic was 'found'. That explains a lot, actually.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:49 pm

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The republic was 'found'. That explains a lot, actually.

And now I have visions of a couple of guys stumbling across it while looking for a good fishing spot.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Reviews & replies: The good, the bad, and the WTF   Fri May 18, 2012 12:06 am

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I found this head-scratcher of a review for a Batman fic:

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DO NOT READ. Since you already started reading you cant stop. My name is Kalena. I have black hair, and green eyes. I am 13. I was abused my whole life. I have no ears or nose, because my parents chopped them of with a rusty fork. I am dead. I will show up in your room in 13 days and #!@%*# you by chopping off your body parts with a rusty fork unless you repost this on 5 pages. THIS IS NO JOKE! If you do, something good will happen to you within 13 days. If you don't believe this,wait till 5:13

I like ur story btw! Sorry for posting this, im really superstitious and i had no where else to put it.

i read this by accident so i have to do it!
Um...whiskey tango foxtrot?

This is interesting...haven't seen this before, since it does have my name, "Kalena" which I don't believe is very common. But to find it used for a fictional person like this... lol wow.

Anyways, I got an anonymous review (although they left their full name as if I was supposed to google them or something to respond) once awhile ago on one of my stories. The fanfic (Naruto, although I'm not too interested in it anymore) was my first publishing on a site and the review was my first as well. I was happy at first until it continued...
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This story is awesome. I hope you hurry up with the next one. I can't wait to see how the fight goes. I wonder who is going to win. Hey can you make a fanfic about a boy named Wes and make him Kakashi's son. He has bandages that cover the first part of his arms and the bottom part of his legs from his knee to his ankles. He wears them to hide the black swirl flames on his legs and arms from the curse mark that Orochimaru gave to Wes when he was in the Akatsuki. He has blue ninja shoes, white shorts that reach to his knee like Sasuke's, and a blue shirt similar to Sakura's with the design on the side of the sleeves, also he has a cloak that looks like his shirt, and he has a sword. and Sasuke and Naruto are his rivals also, but not as bad as Neji's and Wes's rivalry. Wes is also on the non-ninja side of his family but make him a shinobi anAlso make TenTen and Temari have a crush on him and make Neji his biggest rival ever. Oh yway. Also Wes is really good at taijutsu and he can only do ninjutsu and genjutsu if he sends chakra to the parts of his body that are needed. He learns to become this good and gets his chara from the demon that is in his body. Wes also has his own jutsu where he can turn into any animal he wan'ts. Oh and Sasuke and Wes were friends in the past until Sasuke ran away and broke their promise. This was also after the Uchiha massicre and the day Wes lost everyone from his past except his dad Kakashi Hatake. Wes lost his mother, brother, and his whole clan, but what Wes doesn't know is that his brother became the team leader of the Akatsuki. Seth looks like Wes except he looks older. Wes's brother Seth and Sasuke's brother Itachi are really good friends and thats how Wes and Sasuke became friends. The day Wes and Sasuke met was when Sasuke got a sprained ankle and he was on his brother's back and Wes was in the same position as Sasuke. They became friends when Sasuke said that Wes could make it to become a shinobi after he heard about Wes's family and the side Wes was on in his family. Wes also has a demon inside of him like Naruto except that it is stronger. The demon is a ten tailed wolf named Daisuke and it gives off a dark blue chakra. His summon is a black dog with white fur from his bottom to his chest and halfway up its leg and its name is Micheule. Wes and Micheule are good buddies like with Akamaru and Kiba except they love each other a lot more. Their bond is way, extremely stronger then you think. Wes also has nine more summons. One of them is as tall as Wes standing on all fours and her name is Gin Okami that means silver wolf. Another is like a siberian huskey but the parts that are white is the tip of it's tail, halfway up his back legs and his chest to his stomach. His name is Blackie and he and Micheule have a rivalry as big as Wes's and Neji's rivalry. You can make the seven other summons but they have to be wolves. I wan't the fanfic to be about Wes but the story goes the way it does in the Naruto series except that Wes and his brother, named Seth leader of the Akatsuki, have a fight with each other and in the end Wes and his brother like each other again and Seth quits the Akatsuki even though the Akatsuki are all dead.

Really?... You just basically wrote the story just fill in the details. Lazy people is what these types of reviewers are.
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