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PostSubject: He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy   He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy EmptyMon Aug 12, 2013 1:18 pm

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A judge in the US has ordered a baby's first name to be changed from Messiah to Martin, arguing that the only true messiah is Jesus Christ, reports say.
I suspect the Jewish position remains somewhat different.

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Last year more than 700 babies were named Messiah in the US, according to the Social Security Administration.
I wonder if any alternate spelling types have accidently ended up with "Messire" for a completely different pretentious meaning....

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Christianity sees Jesus as the Messiah, while Judaism uses the term to mean an anticipated saviour of the Jews.

Dictionary definitions say the word can mean anyone seen as a saviour or a liberator.
Whoo! I am the WGW messiah! I will save you sorrow's babies!

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The judge in Cocke County said the name Messiah could cause the boy difficulties if he grew up in a predominantly Christian area.

"It could put him at odds with a lot of people and at this point he has had no choice in what his name is," Judge Ballew said.
So instead she calls him Martin McCullough, so he can be like every other American and pretend to be Irish.

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The baby's mother, Jaleesa Martin, told WBIR she would appeal against the judge's order.

"I didn't think a judge could change my baby's name because of her religious beliefs," she said.

She said she chose the name not because of its religious connotations, but because she liked how it sounded with her two other children's names, Micah and Mason.
Mason's gonna grow up to be a stoner... I don't see a problem with any o' these names though.

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Messiah came in at number 387 in the list of the most popular of baby names in the US in 2012, up from 633 in 2011.
If only it was at 666... Man that'd've been good for a joke. But instead this post ends with nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy   He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy EmptyMon Aug 12, 2013 7:33 pm

One of the most egregious cases of judicial overstepping that I've ever heard of. Clear as day that she let her religion override the law and as such I'd be very surprised if a) this isn't overturned on appeal and b) this judge is still on the bench at the end of the year.

And this is true even though I believe Messiah is a horrible name to stick a kid with.
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I have no doubt the judge knew full well this had no chance of withstanding appeal and was pandering to the local conservative herd. Why is it that we fight so hard in this country for term limits for our politicians but not for similar limits for judges (who wield as much, if not more, power than any politician)?
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PostSubject: Re: He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy   He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy EmptyTue Aug 13, 2013 3:36 am

It is strange that a country with a legal system that's supposedly separated from religion can still use religion to impose rules on people in exactly the same way it accuses Muslim countries of doing.

That said, it is a horrible name, and one that the poor kid will have to suffer with for the rest of his life, so I think they should change it for his sake alone.
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PostSubject: Re: He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy   He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy EmptyTue Aug 13, 2013 10:27 am

The BBC had a chat with another guy with the same name,

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Messiah Rhodes, a 26-year-old documentary maker who was raised by his Methodist grandparents in Queens, New York.

"I went to church, not just on Sunday but also on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. I ran a Bible study group when I was 10 or 11. So the ironic thing here is that I grew up in a religious background but no-one was hostile to my name.

Rhodes is one of thousands of Messiahs in the US, but there are only three on the UK electoral roll
"I wasn't treated special, I was like any other kid. And I really didn't think my name was a big deal until I heard the news from Tennessee. How can you force your faith or belief on somebody else? In Tennessee, the church and state are too close together."
Sensible lad! Thousands of Messiahs? I presume they mean by name rather than water-walkers...

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His Jewish dentist greets him with the words: "The Messiah is here and needs his cavities taken out."
Uh... I'm English so American standards of dentistry are far beyond me, but we usually have cavities filled in, rather than taken out.

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There was just one unpleasant incident, when a stranger launched a venomous rant on the subway, screaming at him that he wasn't the Messiah.
I've been on the New York subway! Strangers shout abuse anyway. It would never happen to him on the tube though, because there is no circumstance in the world that somebody would tell someone else their name on the tube. Even tourists silently shut down and pretend to be alone...
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Messiah Rhodes,
There should be a law that says if your last name is Rhodes, you have to name your kid either Dusty or Rocky. Colbert
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And at least once people should decide to go somewhere without you and say,

"Rhodes? Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes."
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I was about to ask how the hell the judge got to the point of deciding the baby's name, but it looks like the parents are already fighting over the last name of the kid. So pretty much this kid's entire name is going to be able to be chosen in court.
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PostSubject: Re: He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy   He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy EmptyTue Aug 13, 2013 11:50 pm

motion the court to name the child Butty McButts

court adjourned

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