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PostSubject: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyWed Nov 14, 2012 3:25 pm

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Two investigations are under way into the death of a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant, at University Hospital Galway last month.

Savita Halappanavar (31), a dentist, presented with back pain at the hospital on October 21st, was found to be miscarrying, and died of septicaemia a week later.

Her husband, Praveen Halappanavar (34), an engineer at Boston Scientific in Galway, says she asked several times over a three-day period that the pregnancy be terminated. He says that, having been told she was miscarrying, and after one day in severe pain, Ms Halappanavar asked for a medical termination.

This was refused, he says, because the foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told, “this is a Catholic country”.

She spent a further 2½ days “in agony” until the foetal heartbeat stopped.
This poor woman was left to miscarry "naturally" over a three day period and fucking well died of septicaemia and E.coli ESBL. This was a case where a medical termination was clearly necessary on day one, no matter what you think about the precious babies, and they let her suffer and ultimately die because the doomed foetus was technically "alive". There isn't a farmer on the island that would let a cow die this way. The fucking government treats us worse than livestock.

The X Case established that a woman has a right to an abortion under Article 40.3.3 of the Constitution if there is "a real and substantial risk" to her life. But none of the subsequent governments have bothered to draft legislation that gives any weight to this ruling, and so you get fucking bullshit like this - doctors standing around prevaricating about whether the woman's life is substantially at risk while she slowly succumbs to infection for the sake of a "baby" THAT'S NOT GOING TO SURVIVE ANYWAY.

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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyWed Nov 14, 2012 4:43 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyWed Nov 14, 2012 10:25 pm

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Two investigations are under way into the death of a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant, at University Hospital Galway last month.

Savita Halappanavar (31), a dentist, presented with back pain at the hospital on October 21st, was found to be miscarrying, and died of septicaemia a week later.

Her husband, Praveen Halappanavar (34), an engineer at Boston Scientific in Galway, says she asked several times over a three-day period that the pregnancy be terminated. He says that, having been told she was miscarrying, and after one day in severe pain, Ms Halappanavar asked for a medical termination.

This was refused, he says, because the foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told, “this is a Catholic country”.

She spent a further 2½ days “in agony” until the foetal heartbeat stopped.
This poor woman was left to miscarry "naturally" over a three day period and fucking well died of septicaemia and E.coli ESBL. This was a case where a medical termination was clearly necessary on day one, no matter what you think about the precious babies, and they let her suffer and ultimately die because the doomed foetus was technically "alive". There isn't a farmer on the island that would let a cow die this way. The fucking government treats us worse than livestock.

The X Case established that a woman has a right to an abortion under Article 40.3.3 of the Constitution if there is "a real and substantial risk" to her life. But none of the subsequent governments have bothered to draft legislation that gives any weight to this ruling, and so you get fucking bullshit like this - doctors standing around prevaricating about whether the woman's life is substantially at risk while she slowly succumbs to infection for the sake of a "baby" THAT'S NOT GOING TO SURVIVE ANYWAY.

Fuck everyone.
I hate doctors (and legislators) like this. How in the hell do doctors get to be doctors without realizing that if a woman dies from her pregnancy, the fetus will also die?

Sadly, this isn't limited to batshit doctors and legislators in Ireland. America has more than its share of idiots (like the doctor who delivered my brother-in-law back in 1974, who believed that a C-section was the same as an abortion and thus refused to perform one on his patient, despite the fact that the fetus was four weeks late and presenting throat first, making my brother-in-law the only person in recorded history to survive being born in that position) and politicians ('cause, ya know, pregnancy can no longer endanger a woman's life or health because modern technology has solved those problems, and also, women never get pregnant from rape, because the female body has a way of shutting that whole thing down Rolling Eyes ).
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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyThu Nov 15, 2012 2:31 am

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The fucking government treats us worse than livestock.

This is a flawed analogy as there is no industry dedicated to killing women to harvest their flesh for food. I mean, killing a cow is nothing. It's like cutting down a tree that smells bad. Except you can grow a new cow quicker than you can grow a new tree.
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('cause, ya know, pregnancy can no longer endanger a woman's life or health because modern technology has solved those problems, and also, women never get pregnant from rape, because the female body has a way of shutting that whole thing down Rolling Eyes ).

Todd Akin is never going to live that down. EVER. :D. He's made himself more unelectable than Tony Abbott.


You know, abortion comes in pill form nowadays (mifepristone). If you can't get it locally, there's always the internet. Too bad for that woman though, she didn't even get the chance. I wonder if her husband can sue for wrongful death?
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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyThu Nov 15, 2012 7:00 am

I'd go into a poorly worded excessive rant about Separation of Church and State, and how religion is needlessly complicating the simplest of things, but I think all around I'd sum up the rant with just:

Pro-Lifers suck.
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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyThu Nov 15, 2012 9:58 am

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'cause, ya know, pregnancy can no longer endanger a woman's life or health because modern technology has solved those problems

I really really hope that Joe Walsh's inbox is crammed so full of links to this story that his computer melts.
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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptyThu Nov 15, 2012 3:04 pm

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You know, abortion comes in pill form nowadays (mifepristone). If you can't get it locally, there's always the internet. Too bad for that woman though, she didn't even get the chance. I wonder if her husband can sue for wrongful death?

No use in getting the name right if everything else is botched: it was not an unwanted but healthy pregnancy, it was a miscarriage in itself. Her own body was already doing what the pill would do. Furthermore would you trust a drug bought on the black/grey market over the Internet? Don't. Ever.
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PostSubject: Re: Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit   Hindu Woman Dies Because of Pro-Life Bullshit EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 12:35 pm

And it goes without saying that now they've lost both the women AND the baby. Ah me, Abortion laws.

"We live in a Catholic country". Those guys basically spat on the Hippocrattic Oath by letting her die.
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