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PostSubject: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:29 am

Anime is a diverse medium. Everything possible can be found in it. Of course, this means that a large percentage will be crap. Discuss.

In our college anime club, we watched a charming series titled Bastard!! [Beware, TV Tropes link!] during finals week. We MST'd the hell out of it. It seemed to be trying to hit every single fetish imaginable, doing at least one per an episode, sometimes per the scene. It was so bad we weren't certain when the damsel in distress lost her virginity... which was connected to the plot in some incomprehensible way. Something about a virgin's kiss. This series has it all... even the anti-Christ. I suggest watching it on a rainy day when you want to laugh your guts out then weep into your cup of cyanide.

Bleach. The beginning is great. But, after that story arch, it should have ended. This series just won't die. There are so many supporting character it is impossible to keep track of them all, and the series tries to follow all of them at once! Then, add in all of the filler episodes, and you have a series that moves roughly fifteen minutes per a season. And Ichigo apparently is God. Or Jesus. When will his powers stop frackin' growing? At this point, the supporting characters are more interesting and well developed than him. Someone, please. Do a mercy kill already. Or split it into at least ten different series.

Inuyasha. This series breaks just about every rule there is to writing a good bamf. No one questions the Kagome's strange and scandalizing dressing habits, or weird speech patterns. She has very little trouble with the medieval lifestyle, or with demons under every leaf. And, it should have ended 30 episodes in. Seriously, this series didn't die 'til it ran out of money, and they didn't even try to give it any sort of resolution. It, like bleach, suffers from a massive supporting cast, way too many side-plots, and an annoying frequency of filler episodes.

That should start us off.

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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:33 pm

A friend of mine recently tried to get me to watch Vampire Knights. What a rotten piece of angsty, bishie, pretty boy, androgynous shit that was. It's cliched wish fulfillment garbage for Hot Topic patrons.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:44 pm

In my mind any series that is longer than 50 episodes just asking for trouble. Hell, I don't like series that are longer than 20-30 episodes. There is only so much you can bleed out of a scenario and a cast of characters without making your filler obvious.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:50 pm

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Bleach. The beginning is great. But, after that story arch, it should have ended. This series just won't die. There are so many supporting character it is impossible to keep track of them all, and the series tries to follow all of them at once! Then, add in all of the filler episodes, and you have a series that moves roughly fifteen minutes per a season. And Ichigo apparently is God. Or Jesus. When will his powers stop frackin' growing? At this point, the supporting characters are more interesting and well developed than him. Someone, please. Do a mercy kill already. Or split it into at least ten different series.

This show is my guilty pleasure that should've ended about one-hundred and fifty episodes ago, but I just love it anyway. I'm a pathetic freak with the brain of a twelve-year-old boy. Oh! Explosions! OH MY GOD THEY'RE POWERING UP

Has anyone seen Gantz?

I'm not all that squeamish, I will tell you, but this anime just... over-the-top, I think. It seriously grossed me out.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:53 pm

Oh, Jeez. I could rant for hours about this one.

By far the worst anime I've ever seen is called Check into Ogenki Clinic This hentai is PWP, and the stupid burns like the sun here.

I could only find two brief clips of this trash:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - this is a music video that uses clips from the show. It gives you only a mere taste of the horror that I saw.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - this is a very brief clip that shows a joke from the show. It's as funny as a heart attack. BTW, the person shown there is a GUY.

Next up is Eiken. These people hat the attitude of "We've got a buch of big boobed women, who cares about things like plot, characterization, and writing!?"




Next up: Galaxy Angel Rune. I liked the original series; it was funny and quirky. This one, however, replaces a lot of the fun stuff with bad cheap fanboy service. Part of the problem was that many of the characters were under 18, and at the time it was made (before it was broadcasted) it was okay to do this in certain areas of Japan. Then the Diet passed the lolli law, forbidding all nude depictions of those under 18. Because they didn't have enough time to go back and cover everything up properly, they put a band-aid over the problem.




Further still: Ground Defense-force Mao-Chan! This may have the name Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina, Negima!) attached to it, but rumor has it that this was done by his staff while he was out sailing the world. Little kawaii girls (under 10) and tough, gritty mecha just don't mix.




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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:13 pm

... continued from last post....

Koharu Biyori. Another one where the stupid burns quite a bit. I really don't see how a baby peeing into a girl's face is funny. (Although I'm sure there's one or two trolls out there that do.)



Next up: Angel Tales. Plot holes big enough to park the titanic in (somehow, 13 people are able to live on one part-time salary, for example.) Whiny Emo boy has been kind to animals, so a goddess sends four hot anthro babes to help him out. For no apparent reason, all four of them fall madly in love with him and start fighting over him. So how does the goddess stop this fight? BY SENDING IN MORE ANTHRO BABES.

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These last three I may get ragged on no end, but I'm throwing them in anyway. I'm sure there's at least four people who will disagree with me on these.

Next up: Ragnarok the animation. You can't swing a dead rat in this one without hitting a cliche. Whiny Emo Boy Rowen and childhood friend Yuufa go on a journey to discover themselves. Extremely repetitive as spellcaster Takius has only three spells in her arsonal. Also goes into the plain wrong in places (two underaged kids, one male and one female share a bed in one episode. They don't do anything nasty, fortunately.)

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Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan a.k.a. Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how having someone's head knocked off and then having gallons of blood spew from their necks is funny. After the first episode, I wanted to reach in the screen and give Dokuro-chan a healthy pimpslap.



Finally, we have Crayon Shin-Chan. Why this one is so popular is beyond me. After five minutes in the first episide, I wanted to give Shin-Chan a healthy pimpslap as well.


The artwork is the least of this one's problems.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:25 pm

Confession time: Bastard!! (Manga) has always been one of my favorite guilty pleasures. The creator used to do porn for a living, and good God does it show.

That said: Shitty anime:

Samurai Deeper Kyo. This is not how you do an animated adaptation. This is not how you do a pragmatic adaptation. In fact, this is not how you do an adaptation, period. I could go on about all the nonsensical stuff they added (Y HELO THAR MIGUERIA) but the absolute worst fuckup they made was the Kenyo cheat. Here's how a battle in the SDK anime goes: Hero encounters villain. Villian kicks hero's ass. Villain, for no discernable reason, turns into a big scary monster. Hero slices and dices said monster.

What the FUCK is this? This isn't DC Comics, people, Kyo's known as the "thousand-man killer" before the story even starts for. . . well, why the fuck do you think? Hell, even the surprisingly deep comic relief butt monkey, Benitora, has no problem putting hubcap-sized holes through his enemies' bodies when the situation calls for it.

In fairness, the project could have been doomed from the start; SDK ran for 38 volumes, has a plot that can be generously described as "fucking insane," and so many characters that you'd need a flowchart the size of the parthenon. But I could have forgen messing up all of the above if they'd done it with the style that keeps the manga interesting: violent yet playful, letting the characters be sympathetic as well as horrible human beings at the same time. But instead it was turned into just another teeth-clenched drama fest, making it nothing we havn't seen done (and better) a million times before.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:50 pm

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Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan a.k.a. Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how having someone's head knocked off and then having gallons of blood spew from their necks is funny. After the first episode, I wanted to reach in the screen and give Dokuro-chan a healthy pimpslap.
Dokuro-chan is the anti-moe. If you don't know about moe, it will not be funny. If you hold moe to be sacred, it will not be funny. Anything in between, and you're golden.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:54 pm

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Inuyasha. This series breaks just about every rule there is to writing a good bamf. No one questions the Kagome's strange and scandalizing dressing habits, or weird speech patterns. She has very little trouble with the medieval lifestyle, or with demons under every leaf. And, it should have ended 30 episodes in. Seriously, this series didn't die 'til it ran out of money, and they didn't even try to give it any sort of resolution. It, like bleach, suffers from a massive supporting cast, way too many side-plots, and an annoying frequency of filler episodes.

Not to mention Kagome is the epitome of one of the rarer variations of Canon-Sue. Bloody hell, either every guy wants to get in her pants or they're practically a closet case. The thing that pisses me off the most is how no matter how wrong Kagome was in an argument, EVERYONE was quick to take her side! Even damned one-shot characters that have only known her for about a few hours at most. I pretty much dropped the series altogether when Kiyko came back, as it just became even worse (even though I've only known you for a few weeks I should oh-so love you more than the woman I've been with for AGES ).
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:06 pm

I haven't seen it myself, but Dragonaut: The Resonance was apparently so bad that one fansub group said so at the end of the series:

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Anime I hated...I thought GetBackers was really lame. It ticks all the cliche boxes for bad shounen fighting anime, in particular everyone explaining their powers at great length in the middle of fights. The actual superpowers were random in nature and effect as well - one guy had magic hypnosis eye powers, but could only use them three times per day.

There are several popular series which I think are overrated but not necessarily ultra-bad, such as Escaflowne, Last Exile and Fullmetal Alchemist.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:07 pm

Everything except for Cowboy Bebop and the Hellsing OVA suck. Period.


... No, okay, I'll play along here.
Saiyuki - I was fond of the manga, it had its amusing charms here and there. But the anime? Holy fuck no. The point of it is to fucking animate! If they had such a shitty budget that they couldn't afford to do that every time action turned the corner, they shouldn't have bothered. Seriously. I could not stand that. Still frames waved in my face is not what I want from any video.

That said, I stupidly really liked the opening theme. Sigh.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:11 pm

Verandering wrote:

That said, I stupidly really liked the opening theme. Sigh.

Yeah, it's pretty catchy.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm

Naruto. Granted, I enjoyed it when it was following Part I of the manga - hell, I thought the episodes covering the battle at the Valley of the End were great for the genre - but then came two years of pure Filler Hell. They should've just ended it at 135.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:01 pm

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quamp wrote:
Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan a.k.a. Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how having someone's head knocked off and then having gallons of blood spew from their necks is funny. After the first episode, I wanted to reach in the screen and give Dokuro-chan a healthy pimpslap.
Dokuro-chan is the anti-moe. If you don't know about moe, it will not be funny. If you hold moe to be sacred, it will not be funny. Anything in between, and you're golden.

I happen to fall in the "Anything in between" category. I know what moe is, and I don't hold it sacred. It was just stupid.

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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:43 pm

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Has anyone seen Gantz?

I'm not all that squeamish, I will tell you, but this anime just... over-the-top, I think. It seriously grossed me out.
I've seen EVERY SINGLE EPISODE OF GANTZ because my girlfriend and I BOUGHT BOTH BOX SETS.

The manga is supposed to be better. I certainly hope so. After
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That said, the animation was gorgeous. Gory, but gorgeous.

I shall now complain about Naruto because it simply has too many fillers to be worth watching. There are more than one hundred episodes of filler between the 1st and 2nd story arcs!

I love the whole idea of Naruto; rival ninja nations struggling for peace or supremacy by using godlike powers. I love Rock Lee, Kakashi, Sarutobi, the three Sannin and even Guy. They are very well-developed characters. What I don't love is the endless parade of filler content. Filler content accomplishes nothing more than wanking off in the fan's faces. I admit that some filler content is awesome, especially the episode in the 1st story arc where Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke try to find out what's under Kakashi's mask, and the episode where Rock Lee discovers Life-Giving Curry, but the rest is dross and makes the anime unwatchable.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:09 pm

I like the filler stuff in Naruto, mostly because it gives the side characters a bit more face time than they get when the show becomes The Sasuke Show again.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:41 pm

Tenchi has a bazillion series. Of all of them, I prefer the early OAVs and the Tenchi in love movie. Dumb fun, nothing terribly offensive.

Still high on those memories, I brought the last box set that completes the original OAV. Oh man, talk about deep hurting. A new fiancee that comes out of nowhere! Lots of people talking about nothing! A much-touted baddie that gets his ass kicked in 5 minutes!

Most offensive of it all is that the earth gets destroyed ---and we don't see it. First we see Tenchi doing lame Tenchi stuff, and the very next episode he's engaging in some sort of epic battle. I know sometimes you can drop the audience into the action and explain shit later, but we don't even get THAT.

Happy family moment --WHAM! Epic battle! WTF? Oh, and did I mention the rather dated Evangelion-style mindscrew? And badly executed at that.

Fail, fail all around.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:52 am

You guys all probably know how big a Narutard I am, but honestly, I don't think I could stand to watch the anime. It's got QUALITY written all over it and feels like there's more filler than actual canon.

I really dislike K-ON (even though it makes me deliriously happy to watch...), but there's music shows, and then there's shows that pretend to be music shows. This is one of the latter. Every episode is basically them just sitting around being moe moe~kyun <3 and whenever they get around to practising they cut away only to come back to them hitting the last chord. Annoys the hell out of me.

And I can't forget that one someone told me I had to attempt to watch - TYTANIA. My lord, I couldn't even watch the first episode. It's like Star Wars meets a High Tea Party, except somewhere along the line someone spiked the tea. The ships look like fancy tea cups, which you think would be cool, but it's completely subverted by the talking. The endless... endless talking.

Also, as much as I enjoy the storyline of Gundam 00, the character designs kill me. Especially the clothes - it's just a bunch of lines rather than an attempt at actual fashion.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:57 am

Even by the standards of bland fanservicey crap, Steel Angel Karumi was pretty ungood. Hey, steampunk robot ~moe~ maids who inexplicably lust over a prepubescent twelve-year-old! What wacky breast-related hijinks will the girls have in the next bathhouse?

I also make it a point to avoid anything with Ken Akamatsu's name attached to it. Nearly all harem anime are made by lonely, pathetic neckbeards for lonely, pathetic neckbeards (and Su it nothing more than a poor man's Edward).
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:06 am

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You guys all probably know how big a Narutard I am, but honestly, I don't think I could stand to watch the anime. It's got QUALITY written all over it and there's more filler than actual canon.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:23 am

Dammit, how could I forget Saiyuki and Getbackers?

Okay, so, I really like the Getbackers manga. It's your typical shonen tropes, but The Jackal is a fuckin' cool villain and I really like Ban's Evil Eye powers and that dude who talks to animals. Plus the art is really beautiful and you can tell a lot of time was taken with it.

Problem is, I don't have a lot of money, and the manga doesn't have scans up on the internet, so I thought, "Hmm, maybe I'll just watch the anime instead to see what happens next!"

Oh dear holy god no was that a mistake

The animation was absolutely fucking terrible. It hurt my soul. Look, here's a screenshot I caught from one of the earlier episodes that tells you just how horrible it is. I could've drawn and colored this, and that's saying something.

Then the same thing sort of happened with Saiyuki. Same thought processes, you know. So I go to watch it, and the animation.

IT'S NOT EVEN ANIMATION. Every time a fucking fight scene or movement that would require more than one limb being shifted came around, it was still-frames with a topsy-turvy-whacky background. Plus the characters looked like shit, which just made me sad because the manga has, again, fucking beautiful artwork that I could stare at forever.

And the voice acting.

Oh holy god the voice acting MAKE IT STOP WHY ARE THEY SO TERRIBLE
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:32 am

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And the voice acting.

Oh holy god the voice acting MAKE IT STOP WHY ARE THEY SO TERRIBLE

I'm not sure who was worse: Goku, or Gojyo. Whiney brat on one hand, WTF surfer dude on the other.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:59 am

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And I can't forget that one someone told me I had to attempt to watch - TYTANIA. My lord, I couldn't even watch the first episode. It's like Star Wars meets a High Tea Party, except somewhere along the line someone spiked the tea. The ships look like fancy tea cups, which you think would be cool, but it's completely subverted by the talking. The endless... endless talking.
Nth on this one. I didn't make it through the first episode either. The content itself wasn't godawful, it was just boring. The character designs gave me the distinct impression that I was supposed to be fapping to the OMG BIJIN, but the lack of any kind of personality or character development, and that the animation looked like a third grader playing with little paper dolls while her daddy played with 3D animation kinda killed any boner to be had.

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Then the same thing sort of happened with Saiyuki. Same thought processes, you know. So I go to watch it, and the animation.

IT'S NOT EVEN ANIMATION. Every time a fucking fight scene or movement that would require more than one limb being shifted came around, it was still-frames with a topsy-turvy-whacky background. Plus the characters looked like shit, which just made me sad because the manga has, again, fucking beautiful artwork that I could stare at forever.
Nth on this one too. I made it only a few episodes in and decided that being so masochistic is bad for my health.

InkWeaver wrote:
And the voice acting.

Oh holy god the voice acting MAKE IT STOP WHY ARE THEY SO TERRIBLE
The English or the Japanese?
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:04 pm

The English, ILE. I was watching the uploaded episodes on youtube. Episode I should say since I didn't get past number one.

Myeerah, I think Gojyo and Sanzo were what killed me. Gojyo the most, though. How the fuck do you mess up Gojyo, seriously? He's too awesome for this nonsense.
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PostSubject: Re: The Bad Anime Thread   Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:09 pm

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How the fuck do you mess up Gojyo, seriously?

Like that. It pained me to listen to him. Of course, the anime pained me in general, so...
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